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| Author: | Dashboy [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Hi I very recently got a PH license and badge have my own car and was wondering about the following situation. First off I have not started taxing yet as I am getting laid off from my old full time job. My mate owns his own hackney cab & has a couple of school contract runs which he was awarded from his local council (different council from where I stay). He said he would give me a couple of days work per week from one, when I start private hire as long as I get public liability insurance and a enhanced disclosure check. The work is prebooked from him opposed to a radio base, how does this work is this ok as far as insurance goes etc. Could anyone advise on the situation if I would be keeping myself legal here as I wouldn't want any nasty suprises. Just trying to keep myself right. Thanks D,boy |
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:28 pm ] |
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As long as you're abiding by what the school specifies in the contract - which is presumably the PL insurance and the enhanced disclosure - then it shouldn't be a problem. And you should also perhaps check to see that it's OK for your mate to sub-contract the work to you - presumably the relevant council will want to see you documentation. If you're working regularly for another office then they may not like it though, so it might be a good idea to run it past them. |
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| Author: | Dashboy [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:33 pm ] |
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Thanks for your reply, Yes he has to pass a copy of all details for his drivers to his council (PL insurance,PH Insurance, enhanced disclosure etc). Yes as far as I am aware he told me he is allowed to subcontract the work. I thought as long as I paid the radio company their cash every week they wouldn't have a problem with it as I am effectively taking less work from them, but I will run it by them, thanks |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Dashboy wrote: when I start private hire as long as I get public liability insurance and a enhanced disclosure check.
I can't see you getting any taxi/PH insurance without public liability insurance, and I will be surprised if you get a license without an enhanced CRB. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Dashboy wrote: have my own car and was wondering about the following situation.
Is your vehicle licensed? If so, and your mate hasn't got more than two taxis, then everything should be ok. If he has more than two taxis he will need an ops license from your area to pass on the work. Unless some of my Scottish friends say different. |
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:49 pm ] |
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Dashboy wrote: I thought as long as I paid the radio company their cash every week they wouldn't have a problem with it as I am effectively taking less work from them, but I will run it by them, thanks
Depends on the particular office and the particular circumstances, but some would see you doing other work as being in competition with them. I don't think that's the case here, but at the other extreme you might have a guy working for an office and handing out his own cards to customers and doingt that work on the sly, which obviously they wouldn't like. |
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| Author: | Dashboy [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:54 pm ] |
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Hi Yes my car is licensed. No got my license without a enhanced disclosure, they did a police check from the local police office. The public liability was only a stipulation for these school runs not aware that its needed for regular PH work. My mates only got one hackney. My main concern was that when I got my PH insurance the company asked what radio company would I be working for so I told them my closest one, now when I start regular PH via this radio station and start this school run say I have an accident on the school run would this make my PH insurance invalid as it wasn't through the radio company. Should I make my insurance company aware of the run? or am I being to parnickety, just trying to make sure my backsides covered. Thanks |
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Sussex wrote: If he has more than two taxis he will need an ops license from your area to pass on the work.
I think it's three or four??? And I think the wording says something about premises used for taking calls, so a one-man hackney operation farming out a school contract wouldn't be covered I think. By the same token, a firm could operate half a dozen cars from a glovebox and a mobile phone and not need a base licence. I think. |
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| Author: | Jasbar [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Sussex wrote: Dashboy wrote: when I start private hire as long as I get public liability insurance and a enhanced disclosure check. I can't see you getting any taxi/PH insurance without public liability insurance, and I will be surprised if you get a license without an enhanced CRB. What is an enhanced CRB? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Jasbar wrote: Sussex wrote: Dashboy wrote: when I start private hire as long as I get public liability insurance and a enhanced disclosure check. I can't see you getting any taxi/PH insurance without public liability insurance, and I will be surprised if you get a license without an enhanced CRB. What is an enhanced CRB? Same as a standard CRB, but more money. |
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| Author: | Caledonian Cabbie [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Jasbar wrote: What is an enhanced CRB?
Criminal Records Bureau - the south of the border version of Disclosure Scotland. Like Skippy, sometimes Sussex forgets that we're living in different countries, even when he's posting in the Scottish section 
Maybe he's spent too much time in Bonnie Scotland and gone native 
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| Author: | Nidge [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private Hire Pre Booked Non Radio Job Is This Ok? |
Jasbar wrote: Sussex wrote: Dashboy wrote: when I start private hire as long as I get public liability insurance and a enhanced disclosure check. I can't see you getting any taxi/PH insurance without public liability insurance, and I will be surprised if you get a license without an enhanced CRB. What is an enhanced CRB? It goes deeper into your past, things like when you've been questioned for something or called in to give a statement. |
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| Author: | Over & Out [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:10 am ] |
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If school job starts and finishes outwith your PH licencse area you might you are not covered by your insurance and license. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:54 am ] |
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Over & Out wrote: If school job starts and finishes outwith your PH licencse area you might you are not covered by your insurance and license.
He's covered, provided CGSA 21(2)(a)(b) or(c) applies when he accepts the hires. Where it starts or ends is not important. CGSA 1982 21(1) If any person - (a) operates, or permits the operation of, a taxi within an area in respect of which its operation requires to be but is not licensed or the driver requires to be but is not licensed; or (b) picks up passengers in, or permits passengers to be picked up by, a private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation requires to be but is not licensed or the driver requires to be but is not licensed, that person shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £2,500. (2) Subsection (1) above does not apply to the operation of a taxi or private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation or its driver is not licensed if the request for its hiring was received by its driver (otherwise than in a public place from the person to be conveyed in it, or a person acting on his behalf, for a journey beginning there and then) whilst - (a) in the area or in that part thereof in respect of which its operation and its driver are licensed; (b) engaged on hire on a journey which began in that area or part or will end there; or (c) returning to that area or part immediately following completion of a journey on hire. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:49 pm ] |
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If you can't get an enhanced CRB in Scotland, then why did that cabby ask his mate to get one? Or is he just a little bit thick? 
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