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Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Private hire scabbie banned after ‘sting’
Private hire driver banned after ‘sting’

Published on Friday 29 July 2011 09:05

A man snared in an undercover police sting to catch private hire cars illegally picking up passengers without bookings has been slapped with a driving ban.

Shaimaz Javed, of Gladstone Street, Peterborough was given a four-month driving ban and fined a total of £400 at Peterborough Magistrates’ Court yesterday.

He had pleaded guilty at a previous hearing on July 7 to one count of unlawfully plying for hire and another count of driving without third party insurance after being caught on April 9 as part of a covert operation to stop illegal taxi touting.

Francesca Devine, prosecuting, told the court that Javed was caught just before midnight when he picked up some undercover officers in Broadway, Peterborough.

He took the three women to the Ramada Hotel in Thorpe Wood, where unknown to Javed uniformed police and a council enforcement officer were lying in wait.

Miss Devine said: “The defendant drove them to the hotel on arrival he quoted them a £4.80 fare, they got a receipt and then revealed who they were.

“He then reacted saying the sting could ‘cost him his livelihood’, ‘there goes my licence’ and ‘that’s another person on jobseekers’.”

District Judge Ken Sheraton sentenced him to a four-month driving ban.

He also fined him £200 for unlawfully plying for hire, £200 for having no insurance and ordered him to pay £50 costs and £15 victim surcharge.

Speaking after the court hearing Pc Jenny Herd, who led the operation that snared Javed, said this would send out a strong message to those looking to flout the law.

She said: “This is another fantastic result at court which sends out a really strong message that the police, local authority and the courts will not tolerate drivers who flout the rules.”

Ian Robinson, council taxi enforcement officer, said: “The law makes a clear distinction between a Hackney Carriage – a London cab – that can be hailed in the street and private hire cars that must be pre-booked.

“If a private hire driver picks someone up without a booking, the insurance is generally invalidated, and from a safety point of view there is no record of the driver undertaking the journey.

“If a passenger or driver is attacked the police and taxi enforcement team would have difficulties identifying the driver, vehicle, journey or customer involved.

“We will not hesitate to prosecute any driver who breaches the rules for a quick illegal profit.”

Source; http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news ... _1_2912335
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
Quote:
If a private hire driver picks someone up without a booking, the insurance is generally invalidated


generally?
Author:  MR T [ Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
wannabeeahack wrote:
Quote:
If a private hire driver picks someone up without a booking, the insurance is generally invalidated


generally?

You can have one policy that states private hire only..and you can have another policy which includes hire and reward.....
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:42 am ]
Post subject: 
MR T wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Quote:
If a private hire driver picks someone up without a booking, the insurance is generally invalidated

generally?

You can have one policy that states private hire only..and you can have another policy which includes hire and reward.....

Not in Brum you can't!!

Thankfully our licensing department insist that PH insurance documentation either states private hire only, or for Hire and reward by pre-booking only. And they prefer the latter wording.

And if the wording isn't how they like it, then the PHV doesn't get a licence until the insurance documentation wording is as required.
Author:  grandad [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:56 am ]
Post subject: 
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
You can have one policy that states private hire only..and you can have another policy which includes hire and reward.....

Not in Brum you can't!!

Thankfully our licensing department insist that PH insurance documentation either states private hire only, or for Hire and reward by pre-booking only.


Aren't these 2 statements the same?
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:28 am ]
Post subject: 
grandad wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
You can have one policy that states private hire only..and you can have another policy which includes hire and reward.....

Not in Brum you can't!!

Thankfully our licensing department insist that PH insurance documentation either states private hire only, or for Hire and reward by pre-booking only.

Aren't these 2 statements the same?

No.

Insurance companies have a never ending variety of wordings when dealing with hire and reward insurance.
Author:  MR T [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:45 pm ]
Post subject: 
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
MR T wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Quote:
If a private hire driver picks someone up without a booking, the insurance is generally invalidated

generally?

You can have one policy that states private hire only..and you can have another policy which includes hire and reward.....

Not in Brum you can't!!

Thankfully our licensing department insist that PH insurance documentation either states private hire only, or for Hire and reward by pre-booking only. And they prefer the latter wording.

And if the wording isn't how they like it, then the PHV doesn't get a licence until the insurance documentation wording is as required.
It does not matter what wording Brummie council insisted upon, if it has... for hire and reward ....than the driver is insured... for hire and reward policies you cannot place stipulations.... European law.
Author:  Dusty Bin [ Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Private hire scabbie banned after ‘sting’
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Francesca Devine, prosecuting, told the court that Javed was caught just before midnight when he picked up some undercover officers in Broadway, Peterborough.

He took the three women to the Ramada Hotel in Thorpe Wood, where unknown to Javed uniformed police and a council enforcement officer were lying in wait.

Miss Devine said: “The defendant drove them to the hotel on arrival he quoted them a £4.80 fare, they got a receipt and then revealed who they were.

“He then reacted saying the sting could ‘cost him his livelihood’, ‘there goes my licence’ and ‘that’s another person on jobseekers’.”



Don't know why they bothered going through all that rigmarole.

According to Brummie all that's needed is to ask the driver if he's free, and if he answers 'yes' - he doesn't even have to do a John Inman :lol: - then that's him bang to rights. :roll:

Maybe they just wanted a lift home :lol:

Don't know if saying "that's another person on jobseekers" is necessary for the offence to be committted either :D

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