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| Author: | captain cab [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns about contact with schoolgirls' A PRIVATE hire driver has lost his licence after concerns were raised about his contact with schoolgirls. The driver, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had his licence removed by Bolton Council’s licensing and environmental regulation committee. He was banned after the councillors heard from police how complaints by passengers had been made and a parent raised concern about the driver’s conduct while he was off duty. The committee heard how the driver arranged to pick up two 13-year-old girls just before midnight on a Friday evening — despite not being on duty. He was alleged to have been sending text messages to the girls and offering “free” rides to the youngsters. He is no longer allowed to work as a private hire driver. Sgt John Boyce, from Bolton's partnership and licensing team, said: “The motives of this driver were very questionable. The public has a right to expect that private hire drivers are of good character. In this particular case, the actions of the driver fell well short of that standard.” This case follows that of private hire driver Riazuddin Malji’s unsuccessful challenge to overturn a decision made by Bolton Council to have his licence revoked last year. Malji was found to not be a fit and proper person to be a private hire driver after he allegedly asked a 13-year-old passenger’s mobile phone number and asked if she liked smoking drugs. Bolton magistrates upheld the decision of the council at the appeal hearing. source: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/NEWS/110 ... oolgirls_/ |
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| Author: | billybobs [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
Convicted by the thought police. How Far can we go with this? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
billybobs wrote: Convicted by the thought police. How Far can we go with this? I think there is a little bit more than "thought" here, particularly with what has gone on in Bolton recently. Or would you rather wait until a young girl has been assaulted by this person? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
billybobs wrote: Convicted by the thought police. How Far can we go with this? We will wait till he rapes someone then. |
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| Author: | billybobs [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
grandad wrote: billybobs wrote: Convicted by the thought police. How Far can we go with this? I think there is a little bit more than "thought" here, particularly with what has gone on in Bolton recently. Or would you rather wait until a young girl has been assaulted by this person? You seem to completely miss the point. No charges,no conviction just a few councillors playing God. The "innocent until proven guilty" idea is the cornerstone of justice in this country and has been for a long time. We are rapidly approaching a system of automatic guilt. Not a country I would like to live in. |
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| Author: | billybobs [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
Sussex wrote: billybobs wrote: Convicted by the thought police. How Far can we go with this? We will wait till he rapes someone then. There would be a case to prove then wouldn't there. What other system would you suggest? When someone makes an accusation then you are automatically Guilty? |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
ISTR there's been several similar cases on here recently with drivers being suspended for "inappropriate" conduct. Most have not actually committed an offence but I'm sure most parents would not like cab drivers chatting up their young daughters; most women don't like the chat-up lines of certain drivers in my area. I suspect you'll find the LA has something in their rules about conduct from drivers, and as much as I don't like "thought police" I tend to agree that if a driver has made sexual or inappropriate comments then he should not be allowed to carry on pending an inquiry. |
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| Author: | Bart [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date (ok he missed the smoking ban too) no one should lose their licence unless convicted by due process of law... No exceptions |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
Bart wrote: no one should lose their licence unless convicted by due process of law... No exceptions You had better hope that it isn't your daughter. |
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| Author: | billybobs [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
grandad wrote: Bart wrote: no one should lose their licence unless convicted by due process of law... No exceptions You had better hope that it isn't your daughter. Totally predictable comment. Have you ever looked more than two inches from the end of your nose? |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
In a way I agree, but some people are simply unsuitable for the sort of work we do. Passengers expect to be given a hassle-free journey without sexual comments or innuendos and the possibility that the stranger taking them is not going to "try something on" with them. We see plenty of cases on here where bogus "cab drivers" have assaulted passengers. This former licenced cab driver has been prevented from legally carrying on his business for which he may have sinister ulterior motives. That he may continue to do so unlicenced is also a possibility. This may not be the last we've heard on this gentleman. The LC have the right not to issue or to suspend or revoke the licences of those deemed unsuitable and if there's been complaints about his comments, then that right has been exercised. He can always appeal through the magistrates court to have his licence reinstated. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
billybobs wrote: grandad wrote: Bart wrote: no one should lose their licence unless convicted by due process of law... No exceptions You had better hope that it isn't your daughter. Totally predictable comment. Have you ever looked more than two inches from the end of your nose? How often do we hear that the powers that be should have done more to stop some peoples activities before they become serious? Here you are criticizing the licensing authority for stopping a potentially serious act. This decision was upheld by the magistrates so I think there was more than a suggestion that there was some truth in the allegation, just not enough to convict yet. I wish our LO was more inclined to take this kind of action against one of the drivers here who is known to say and do things similar to this guy. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
roythebus wrote: He can always appeal through the magistrates court to have his licence reinstated. He lost the appeal. |
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| Author: | townhalltaxis [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
FFS the guys a [edited by admin] and shouldnt be driving a taxi/private hire. the L.A were spot on to remove his badge. And all those trying to say its wrong well he was off shift on a friday and what does he do. Does he A = have a night in a catch up on things B = Go for a few beers. c = Go out on the pull with his mates. No he waits till midnight to try and take two 13 year olds girls out |
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| Author: | Bart [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab driver banned because of 'concerns' |
grandad wrote: Here you are criticizing the licensingw authority for stopping a potentially serious act. This decision was upheld by the magistrates so I think there was more than a suggestion that there was some truth in the allegation, just not enough to convict yet. [/quote][/quote]Innocent until PROVEN guilty is a cornerstone of our system of justice. I really don't want to live in a country where I can be punished just because someone THINKS there is a SUGGESTION of guilt. |
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