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| Author: | captain cab [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust’ |
CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust’ Taxis in Rotherham are being fitted with CCTV cameras in an effort to rebuild trust in the town’s taxi industry. Drivers have until July 6 to fit the cameras, which are now a requirement under Rotherham Council’s new Taxi and Hackney Carriage policy Only people authorised by the Council can access any recorded footage. Drivers will be unable to access footage The Council will only download the footage in certain circumstances, such as if there is a complaint or incident involving a taxi, or if the Council wants to check that the system is being used properly. The Council can easily check if a vehicle was being used as a taxi at a particular time by referring to records held by the private hire company that the taxi is working for. The Council does not require the systems to be active during the times that the system is not being used as a taxi, so there will be no intrusion into the private lives of drivers and their families. Commissioner Ney added: “The camera system will provide protection for both passengers and the driver, and there needs to be the correct balance between protecting people and making sure that there is no breach of people’s rights to privacy. “The driver is required to make sure that the system is operating correctly when the taxi is working. We will carry out random checks including downloading footage from the systems to verify that the systems are being used as required by the Council’s policy. If they are not then drivers may have their licence suspended or revoked.” The new Rotherham Council Taxi and Hackney Carriage policy sets out in detail the requirements of drivers which include checks of criminal records, social care and other agencies, motoring offences, the drivers’ track record and previous licensing history. The policy also sets standards concerning the safety of vehicles. To read the new rules go to www.rotherham.gov.uk/info/200094/taxis_and_minicabs Read more: http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/cctv-came ... z45j4N5X3J |
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| Author: | sasha [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
captain cab wrote: The Council does not require the systems to be active during the times that the system is not being used as a taxi In other words the driver can turn it off - like when they intend to do something naughty and they don't want any evidence 
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| Author: | edders23 [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
In other words it's a sop to convince everyone something is being done 
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| Author: | heathcote [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
Who is purchasing the system,who owns the vehicle,it would appear that it is only private hire vehicles as they will check private hire operator records,the Council appear to not realise that a vehicle once licensed is governed by the license 24/7,I would if fitting CCTV in my vehicle be the data controller and I would be deeming who had access to that data not the COUNCIL,where do TAXIS fit into this as it only mentions private hire and misuses the word TAXI in doing so. How many licensed vehicles do the Council own or is it another case of someone taking a big stick and threatening the owners of vehicles. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
I bet they've figured a way to turn it off already. |
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
Nidge2 wrote: I bet they've figured a way to turn it off already. doubt it if what ive seen down here is similiar? good on the Council for insisting upon it! and it should be for both Hack and PH i reckon  Protect the public from pervert Hack and PH Drivers well done Rotherham and now lets see it mandatory Nationwide
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| Author: | edders23 [ Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
The Council will only download the footage in certain circumstances, such as if there is a complaint or incident involving a taxi, or if the Council wants to check that the system is being used properly. In other words it will be useless to drivers as council will only allow access to footage if the complaint is against the driver runners and abusive passengers will be protected probably |
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
edders23 wrote: The Council will only download the footage in certain circumstances, such as if there is a complaint or incident involving a taxi, or if the Council wants to check that the system is being used properly. In other words it will be useless to drivers as council will only allow access to footage if the complaint is against the driver runners and abusive passengers will be protected probably OR at the Drivers request following an incident is the normal protocal ie threat of violence racism to the driver .very useful i think ! |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
trotskys twin wrote: edders23 wrote: The Council will only download the footage in certain circumstances, such as if there is a complaint or incident involving a taxi, or if the Council wants to check that the system is being used properly. In other words it will be useless to drivers as council will only allow access to footage if the complaint is against the driver runners and abusive passengers will be protected probably OR at the Drivers request following an incident is the normal protocal ie threat of violence racism to the driver .very useful i think ! I doubt it in most cases the council will be "too Busy" to review the footage and the police will probably be uninterested unless it is a Murder or very serious incident |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
No one has answered the question"who is paying for it" If it is the vehicle owner he would have to apply for a license to be a data controller and he would be the only person who could download any data. If the Council pay for the system as it is in a vehicle not owned by the Council I think there will be many pitfalls in determining who can be the licensed data controller. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
sasha wrote: captain cab wrote: The Council does not require the systems to be active during the times that the system is not being used as a taxi In other words the driver can turn it off - like when they intend to do something naughty and they don't want any evidence Maybe, but then they lose their license for breaching their licensing conditions. And courts may take a negative view if an incident should have been filmed, but it wasn't. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
heathcote wrote: No one has answered the question"who is paying for it" It will be the drivers. |
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| Author: | trotskys twin [ Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
Sussex wrote: heathcote wrote: No one has answered the question"who is paying for it" It will be the drivers. OF COURSE UNLESS THEY ACCESS EU FUNDING. |
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| Author: | heathcote [ Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
If that is correct drivers/proprietors are paying the Council will have no control over the data ,only the drivers/proprietors can be the data controller. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CCTV cameras fitted in Rotherham taxis to ‘rebuild trust |
heathcote wrote: If that is correct drivers/proprietors are paying the Council will have no control over the data ,only the drivers/proprietors can be the data controller. Nope. Anyone can be a data controller, and the council can state that footage can only be viewed by whoever they like. |
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