grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
I certainly wouldn't be looking to go PAYE but it would be nice if I could have holiday pay, sick pay and perhaps a pension.
I am currently advertising for full time drivers to be employed on the books. I am offering above the minimum wage with a bonus on top dependant on how much the driver takes. They will get the full 28 days holiday entitlement, a company pension scheme, statutory sick pay, use of the subsidised cafeteria in our office complex and free use of the gymnasium. Our current drivers who are not already employees have also been offered the opportunity to become full time employees. To date not one of the current drivers has asked to be PAYE and I have had no applications at all.
But from what youv'e told us in previous posts your company is one of the good ones to work for, pretty much letting the drivers get on with the job in their own way with little intervention from yourself.
Compare that to my company who practically dictate every single aspect of the working day with the attitude 'if you dont like it work for someone else' and you can see why some drivers rckon they are treated more like employees than self-employed.
If I was on your company I probably wouldnt want to go PAYE either, because your drivers log on and accept/decline jobs as they see fit - as it should be. The latest from my office is if we decline too many jobs in a week they'll start issuing fines ! Add on all the other 'rules' they have and it becomes clear I have very little say in how I work - certainly not the complete control a truly self employed person would have.
You are correct in how we operate with self employed drivers and you have hit the nail on the head as to why they don't want to be PAYE. However we thought that some people may prefer the certainty of a full time contract of employment as preached by the likes of TT but it seems not to be the case.[/quote]
It is illegal for some to issue a fine against someone carrying out work for them unless they are empowered to do so by law.