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| Author: | StuartW [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-n ... d-42606973 By Steven Duff BBC Scotland reporter The consultation held ahead of the granting of a licence allowing taxi firm Uber to operate in Aberdeen has been branded "farcical" by a MSP. It was announced last week the ride-hailing firm had been granted permission to operate in the city. Council officials were able to approve the licence rather than it going before a committee. BBC Scotland has learned a notice detailing the application was posted in the window of offices rented by Uber. It was the only public notification of the application. Aberdeen Central SNP MSP Kevin Stewart said it had not given anyone a realistic opportunity to object. The delegated powers that were used for the licence can only be used if there are no objections following a period of consultation. The application was sent to the normal statutory consultees which in this case was only Police Scotland, and no objection was raised. Uber was required to place a statutory notice of display. The firm has rented a registered office on Berry Street in Aberdeen. Although the period of consultation has ended, the notice is still displayed at the bottom of a window at the main entrance. Nothing was posted on Uber or Aberdeen City Council's websites and no notice was placed in the local press. ![]() ![]() MSP Kevin Stewart told BBC Scotland: "I think that the consultation itself has been farcical. "I have had a lot of correspondence already from taxi drivers and constituents about the fact that there has been no consultation whatsoever. "The fact the the council only talked to the statutory consultee, which in this case is Police Scotland, and no-one else is quite outrageous. "It's ridiculous that officers of the council have taken the decision to allow Uber to operate using delegated powers." He has written to council chief executive Angela Scott to express concerns. An Aberdeen City Council spokesperson said: "Police Scotland is the statutory consultee for an application for a booking office. No other persons are directly consulted with for such applications. "The applicant is, however, required to display a notice at the proposed booking office for 21 days which must be viewable by the public. The applicant complied with this requirement. "As there were no objections, the matter was not referred to the Licensing Committee. This is usual practice." Last week Uber confirmed that a licence had been granted but said there was not currently a launch date set for the service. Uber is a cashless service where users book taxis through a smartphone app. An Uber spokesman said: "Uber abides by the same rules and regulations as all other private hire operators. "Uber only partners with licensed private hire drivers who have been through the council's licensing process. "We're delighted by the reaction we have got from people in Aberdeen and are looking forward to bringing more choice and competition to the city." The controversial taxi firm was deemed unfit to operate by Transport for London and is appealing against a decision to remove its licence with similar action being taken in York. It also currently operates in Glasgow and Edinburgh. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
StuartW wrote: MSP Kevin Stewart told BBC Scotland: "I think that the consultation itself has been farcical. "I have had a lot of correspondence already from taxi drivers and constituents about the fact that there has been no consultation whatsoever. "The fact the the council only talked to the statutory consultee, which in this case is Police Scotland, and no-one else is quite outrageous. "It's ridiculous that officers of the council have taken the decision to allow Uber to operate using delegated powers." He has written to council chief executive Angela Scott to express concerns. Mr Stewart chaired a Scottish Parliament committee when the legislation was being reviewed, so wonder why any shortcomings in the consultation process weren't highlighted then?
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
Did anyone see the brown envelope enter the building?? |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
Nidge2 wrote: Did anyone see the brown envelope enter the building?? Never seen it but I can smell it from here... |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
Since when has there been any requirement to have a public consultation regarding the granting of an operators license? There may have been s requirement to allow the public to comment about planning consent to run the business from the premises but unless things are different in Scolandshire then I doubt that any consultation is required. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
In Scotland the office must be manned 24/7, or during opening times, and full log of who did what run kept, and the office licensed |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
skippy41 wrote: In Scotland the office must be manned 24/7, or during opening times, and full log of who did what run kept, and the office licensed How can that work with an operator who doesn't operate 24/7? |
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| Author: | Chris the Fish [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
grandad wrote: skippy41 wrote: In Scotland the office must be manned 24/7, or during opening times, and full log of who did what run kept, and the office licensed How can that work with an operator who doesn't operate 24/7? Have to be fair there Grandad, he did say.
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| Author: | StuartW [ Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Uber consultation in Aberdeen branded 'farcical' |
grandad wrote: Since when has there been any requirement to have a public consultation regarding the granting of an operators license? There may have been s requirement to allow the public to comment about planning consent to run the business from the premises but unless things are different in Scolandshire then I doubt that any consultation is required. Consultation is perhaps too strong a word for it all, particularly in the sense we would normally use the word as regards politics. But, as regards licences up here, Police Scotland for one are statutory 'consultees'. And it seems a notice requires to be posted at premises where a booking office licence is applied for, as per the Bolt case in Glasgow in the new thread. So it's slightly more like a planning application, I suppose, and 'consultation' maybe an appropriate term in the looser sense
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