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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:08 pm 
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Looks like it was PHDs standing outside the nightclub, presumably local and Glasgow-plated.

The car which drove at them is South Lanarkshire-plated, and a Citreon Picasso so not clear whether it's an HC or PHV.


Glasgow taxi drivers dodge motor as it's 'deliberately driven at them' outside Sanctuary nightclub

https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/177 ... nightclub/

FOUR cab drivers narrowly dodged a motor after it was deliberately driven at them following an argument outside a nightclub in Partick.

A number of private hire car drivers exchanged verbals outside Sanctuary on Dumbarton Road at around 2.30am this morning.

One left the area in a grey Citroen Picasso and headed for the city centre before seemingly driving back and making a beeline for the group of cabbies.

All four managed to escape the ordeal but have been left "shaken".

Cops are desperate to find the maniac who drove the car towards the group and have urged anyone who may have information to come forward.

Detective Sergeant Bernadette Walls, Drumchapel CID, said: “Although we have spoken to a number of people who were at the club at the time, we are still keen to hear from anyone who may have been driving by.

"Especially if they have dash cams on their car, we want to see if they have captured the car, which had a South Lanarkshire Council licence plate, in the area at the time of the incident.

“Thankfully no one was hurt but it could have had terrible consequences if the car had hit the men, or indeed any of the clubbers or door staff who were about at the time.

“If you saw the car incident or the initial argument take place, we would ask that you call Drumchapel CID via 101 quoting reference number 0480 of the 1 July 2019. Alternatively, Crimestoppers can be contacted anonymously on 0800 555 111.”


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:11 pm 
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Looks like it was PHDs standing outside the nightclub, presumably local and Glasgow-plated.

The car which drove at them is South Lanarkshire-plated, and a Citreon Picasso so not clear whether it's an HC or PHV.


Of course, one of the comments contradicts the article and says the guys outside the club were Glasgow HCDs, and the South Lanarkshire car was a PHV 'touting', hence the fall out. That sounds slightly more plausible.

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Black cabbies stopping asian drivers with south Lanarkshire plates from illegally touting. Lots of illegal Asians applying for licences outside Glasgow now


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:07 pm 
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Although the several online reports about this all use the usual mixture of vague and inexact terminology, have definitely seen them *all* specifically described as "private hire", so seems probable that they were all PHDs, the four on the road/pavement Glasgow-plated, presumably, with the suspect from South Lanarkshire.

So was assuming that police wouldn't find it that difficult to find a 'grey Citroen Picasso' on a South Lanarkshire plate.

However, while I was assuming that there would be a few hundred PHVs there, according to the official stats there are actually around 1,500 :shock:

Still, shouldn't be too may fitting the description, since the youngest Picassos must be pushing ten-years-old now, so would imagine there aren't that many doing anything, never mind being used as a PHV :?:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:16 am 
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A number of private hire car drivers exchanged verbals outside Sanctuary on Dumbarton Road at around 2.30am


I think this suggests PH

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:28 am 
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Police statement makes no reference to it being a taxi. Poor reporting on this occasion calling a phv a taxi.

This is pretty much the statement given by Greater Glasgow Police... https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/single-post/2019/07/01/Glasgow-cabbie-attempts-to-ram-four-private-hire-drivers


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:13 am 
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Sherbet Dab wrote:
Police statement makes no reference to it being a taxi. Poor reporting on this occasion calling a phv a taxi.


Arguably, but 'private hire car' doesn't really mean much to the general public, and suspect the newspapers just used the word taxi to clarify public understanding of the issue rather than to deliberately confuse.

As regards finding the car and gathering evidence from the public, using the words 'taxi' and 'cab' together with the description and licensing area probably better than 'private hire car'.

In fact, as regards 'private hire car' the police statement twice uses 'private car hire drivers', so they should be grateful to the press for at least getting the words in the right order and clarifying that :wink:

(Note also that in Scotland a PHV is a 'private hire car', but not a 'private car hire' as per the police statement.)

Sherbet Dab wrote:


TaxiPoint's headline 'Glasgow private hire driver' is incorrect as well, because the police statement specifically says that he was licensed in South Lanarkshire, and I suspect the crux of the incident was that he was an out-of-area driver, and the PHDs he drove at were Glasgow-badged.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:19 pm 
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Also worth pointing out that the term 'minicab' is virtually unknown in Scotland, so zero likelihood of that being used, and if it was it would probably just confuse any member of the public who might happen to have evidence.

The term hackney carriage is also effectively unknown up here outside the trade. The legislation simply uses the terms 'taxi' and 'private hire car', thus hackney carriage has zero legal status in Scotland*.

The press often use 'private hire taxi' or 'private hire cab' (as is the case in much press reporting south of the border as well), which is obviously incorrect in a technical sense, but is probably a good way of conveying the intended message to the general public.

And 'private hire taxi' also conveys to the more anoraky people like us that it's *not* an HC :D

(*I tend to avoid the t-word, and instead use HC and PH (at least if the distinction is obvious from the report) because for readers on here it provides a more precise meaning, while 'taxi' can always be misconstrued.)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 1:15 am 
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Awaiting a police update as its looking like piracy issue at a well known problem club


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:48 am 
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Sherbet Dab wrote:
Awaiting a police update as its looking like piracy issue at a well known problem club


Ah, yes, noticed the stuff on the Glasgow Unite Facebook page, but since police have obviously been turning a blind eye for a while, I wouldn't expect them to highlight the piracy issue and how that might have led to the incident the other night.

Anyway, here's some stuff from Unite in case anyone's interested:

On 22 April 2019 Glasgow Unite wrote:
Pirating was rife all over last night, and Sanctuary was no exception.

Taxis & Private Hire from all over congregated at the door, with the road impassable at times whilst the tell tale negotiating at windows took place.

Unusually, instead of driving by as normal, Police Scotland were parked up in a van adjacent to the chaos, looking on passively and unwilling to intervene on the illegal activities occurring in front of them.


On 2 July 2019 Glasgow Unite wrote:
Sanctuary still remains a hotbed of Pirating activity despite us detailing this on 22nd April.

The Police routinely navigate through the masses of PH assembled both sides of the road without so much as a sideways glance. This indicates to us that senior Police Officers are still of the belief the Branch are ‘grossly exaggerating’ the problem.

It can therefore come as no surprise when violence breaks out from a group who routinely break the law.

We have a feeling there will be further news stories relating to this location, therefore it’s hoped that Police Scotland urgently adopt a more proactive approach to public safety.


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One or two interesting comments as well, the first one of which again raises the possibility that it was HC drivers who confronted the pirate. The second one says it was PHDs who confronted the 'pirate hire driver' :lol:

So assuming it was all PHDs involved, I suspect the Glasgow-plated ones think they have more right to pirate than a PHD with an out-of-town plate :?

Nadeem Hussain wrote:
There was a simple exchange of words. Black hack drivers told the south Lanarkshire pirate to beat it as he was clearly pirating and then he came back trying to run them over.
I would also urge the police to check his immigration status and possibly deport him (after serving his sentence for attempted murder).


Alfa Harriss wrote:
If the police wants the video footage I have at all, fromnthe start whennthe pirate hire driver offered a customer £50 to take the customer to larkhall, and eventually took the customer on board and he noticed I filmed him so he started swearing at me and his friend who was a pirate hire driver as well jumped out his car and tried to attack us and verbally assaulted us and that when the police came over and asked him him to stop otherwise he will be arrested.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:24 pm 
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Absolute carnage.

All the police want is those leaving the club to get home as quickly as possible.

They really don't care two hoots about licensing laws.

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