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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:18 pm 
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Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed. The free-market and de-rugulation has failed to bring any of the consumer benefits promised. Councillors at local level cannot fail to see the similarities with the Taxis trade. This is the end of Dereg/Delimit and more districts will re-impose controls and numerical limits. The dereg/delimit experiment has been costly to consumer and provider but IS an unmitigated failure. Not one area can show that it has brought any benefit to consumers and the decision takes can see it plainly for themselves.
R.I.P Dereg/Delimit.


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In my experience most councillors DO NOT see trains and taxis as being part of the same public transport system and don't therefore draw comparisons !

My prediction for the future is that only passenger services in Scotland will be nationalised freight will continue on a private enterprise basis and taxis will probably be further DEregulated !


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edders23 wrote:
In my experience most councillors DO NOT see trains and taxis as being part of the same public transport system and don't therefore draw comparisons !

My prediction for the future is that only passenger services in Scotland will be nationalised freight will continue on a private enterprise basis and taxis will probably be further DEregulated !


I think you are wrong Councils talk now about integrated transport services and networks, no more railways stations, its a travel interchange now and placement of Taxi ranks is part of the planning remit on all major developements. My point is that the overall general political thinking has changed, dereg/delimit is not the magic wand they were led to believe it would be. If Councillors don't see the connection immediatley they soon will when threatened areas bring it to their attention. They do respond to logical reasoned arguement, the reason Dereg/Delimit took such a hold was the apathy within the Taxi trade but lessons have been learnt we will no longer be mis-led by the likes of this forum. I think there with be more limits and caps put on than taken off in future.


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OVER 3 HOUR AND NOT A RESPONSE FROM AMISH BOY SUSSEX.
I am claiming this as a record.
Is the news so bad its stunned them into silence.
Confirmation that Dereg/Delimit is history.
Could it be they have no answer because there is none.
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T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.

Remind me which part of the railways isn't owned by the tax-payer? :?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:03 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.

Remind me which part of the railways isn't owned by the tax-payer? :?


The TRAINS !!! the taxpayers only own the infrastructure


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OVER 3 HOUR AND NOT A RESPONSE FROM AMISH BOY SUSSEX.
I am claiming this as a record.
Is the news so bad its stunned them into silence.
Confirmation that Dereg/Delimit is history.
Could it be they have no answer because there is none.

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As for the substance of your issue, well TBH the Scots can do what they like.

But if I was to hazard a guess I would say this is new Labour spin just before a very important election, and no-doubt a few dumbo's will be taken in by it.

Including you. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The TRAINS !!! the taxpayers only own the infrastructure

So the Scots are going to nationalise a few trains. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:55 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.

Remind me which part of the railways isn't owned by the tax-payer? :?


The TRAINS !!! the taxpayers only own the infrastructure


Yes and now they are considering re-nationalising the operators routes. Read what it says in the post, engage brain first. They are going to take over all the railway system.


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T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.


I haven't seen any mention of the Scottish Parliament announcing anything of the sort - could you provide a source?

What was reported was that Network Rail are considering bidding for the rail franchise which is currently operated by First ScotRail. So it wouldn't amount to renationalisation unless you consider Network Rail to be state-controlled, in which case it wouldn't be such a radical change because Network Rail already owns the rail infrastructure.


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Sussex wrote:
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The TRAINS !!! the taxpayers only own the infrastructure

So the Scots are going to nationalise a few trains. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:05 pm 
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Fae Fife wrote:
T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.


I haven't seen any mention of the Scottish Parliament announcing anything of the sort - could you provide a source?

What was reported was that Network Rail are considering bidding for the rail franchise which is currently operated by First ScotRail. So it wouldn't amount to renationalisation unless you consider Network Rail to be state-controlled, in which case it wouldn't be such a radical change because Network Rail already owns the rail infrastructure.



Announcement on Radio 4 lunch time news today.


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As for the substance of your issue, well TBH the Scots can do what they like.


Should have bought a plate when they were cheap then. HA-ha.
Scotland is miles away why should you care about them.
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T. wrote:
Fae Fife wrote:
T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.


I haven't seen any mention of the Scottish Parliament announcing anything of the sort - could you provide a source?

What was reported was that Network Rail are considering bidding for the rail franchise which is currently operated by First ScotRail. So it wouldn't amount to renationalisation unless you consider Network Rail to be state-controlled, in which case it wouldn't be such a radical change because Network Rail already owns the rail infrastructure.



Announcement on Radio 4 lunch time news today.


There must be a source on the internet - perhaps you misheard?

The Scottish Parliament is in recess at the moment because of the forthcoming elections, so I can't really see it mentioning anything of this nature.


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Fae Fife wrote:
T. wrote:
Fae Fife wrote:
T. wrote:
Its was announced today that the Scottish Parliament is looking into reversing of the de-nationalisation of the railway system. This shows how far political thinking has changed.


I haven't seen any mention of the Scottish Parliament announcing anything of the sort - could you provide a source?

What was reported was that Network Rail are considering bidding for the rail franchise which is currently operated by First ScotRail. So it wouldn't amount to renationalisation unless you consider Network Rail to be state-controlled, in which case it wouldn't be such a radical change because Network Rail already owns the rail infrastructure.





Announcement on Radio 4 lunch time news today.


There must be a source on the internet - perhaps you misheard?

The Scottish Parliament is in recess at the moment because of the forthcoming elections, so I can't really see it mentioning anything of this nature.


Ok goto BBC online and replay lunch time news. I'll look for the EARAX and cotton buds.


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