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Author:  Renfrewshire Driver [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Havant Council to license limos
HAVANT council is set to act amid fears people are being put at risk by firms cashing in on the craze to hire out stretch limos.
The super-sized cars are becoming more popular for occasions such as hen and stag nights, and there are six companies in the Havant borough operating the flashy vehicles.
But council chiefs suspect some firms are operating without licences allowing them to hire out vehicles, and the borough is now set to bring in tougher safety regulations.
Havant Borough Council bosses are to decide whether to bring in a special licence aimed at regulating stretch limos in the same way as taxis.
The giant cars would have to be tested every six months to be lawfully allowed to pick up passengers. Any rogue operators could be fined.
A recent stretch limo survey in Southampton showed that 14 out of the 17 stopped were operating without a licence either from a local authority or the national Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (Vosa).
Geoff Hallett, borough licensing officer, thinks the situation in Havant could be similar, and wants a new licensing scheme.
He said: 'It is very likely that the majority are operating unlawfully and can only become legitimate if they are licensed as private-hire vehicles.'
The council does not give licences to vehicles more than three years old on initial application, or are left-hand drive – which rules out most stretch limos. Tomorrow councillors will decide whether the rules should be changed.
Mr Hallett said that at the moment some cars could be breaching safety rules, with some 'stretched' illegally so they were too long or too heavy. Others used inadequate tyres for the weight of the car.
Steve Middleton, director of Lawnswood Limousines, which is licensed with the Vosa, welcomed the plan.
'There are a couple I know of that are run without licences and flouting the rules. I'm all for regulating the industry,' he said.
Gosport Borough Council and Portsmouth City Council already issue licences for stretch limousines.


PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS

Conditions that a limo will need to meet to be given a licence:

Evidence that it was modified by a qualified converter

The vehicle must not have been lengthened by more than 120in or weigh more than 7,100lb

Tyres must be designed and manufactured for that class of vehicle and be capable of supporting the maximum loaded weight for each axle when at maximum speed

A Single Vehicle Approval certificate or equivalent for that vehicle must be submitted

Seat belts complying with current legislation must be fitted for each passenger seat

Passengers cannot travel in the front seat

Vehicles licensed under these additional conditions must be submitted every six months for a check at the council's approved centre.

http://www.portsmouthtoday.co.uk/ViewAr ... tionID=455
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:22 pm ]
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http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=5902

It's gets a bit tasty towards the end, so the esteemed admin of this site locked it. :shock:
Author:  kermit2482 [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:57 pm ]
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Oh look someone else is keen to start this again, freedom of speech dont you just love it, now wheres my friends too :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  no tips [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:43 pm ]
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We missed your mate the graduate on that one.He was such a benefit to your cause, NOT
We can go round & round and in the end you will still be fooling your customers with your own side step of the hire & reward regs,& we will be doing our straight down the middle of hire & reward to the letter of the law.…
Happy days.… :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Author:  kermit2482 [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:49 pm ]
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To be honest with you NO TIPS most of the councils REFUSE to licence and why should limo ops be refused to make a living, would you still view it the same way if they refused you to make a living, honest question requires an honest answer!!
Author:  no tips [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:05 pm ]
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If any council refuse a licence for a taxi a PH or a limo, or anything a bookies a pub, you dont do it you find another way to earn a living. you dont just stick 2 fingers up and carry on. Rules is Rules.
You kick up and go though the normal channels but if they wont grant a licence you do something else.
AND THAT IS A HONEST ANSWER

But your self driver does not come into any of that. you are [edited by admin] in the wind with that.
Author:  TDO [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:47 am ]
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HAVANT we been here before? :lol:
Author:  grandad [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:01 am ]
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[quote="no tips"]If any council refuse a licence for a taxi a PH or a limo, or anything a bookies a pub, you dont do it you find another way to earn a living. you dont just stick 2 fingers up and carry on. Rules is Rules.
You kick up and go though the normal channels but if they wont grant a licence you do something else.
AND THAT IS A HONEST ANSWER



This may be an honest answer but it not true. We have unlisenced taxis flying around with unlisenced drivers all the time. Read the no signage thread.
Author:  kermit2482 [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:49 am ]
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no tips wrote:
If any council refuse a licence for a taxi a PH or a limo, or anything a bookies a pub, you dont do it you find another way to earn a living. you dont just stick 2 fingers up and carry on. Rules is Rules.
You kick up and go though the normal channels but if they wont grant a licence you do something else.
AND THAT IS A HONEST ANSWER

But your self driver does not come into any of that. you are [edited by admin] in the wind with that.


No tips Yes again i agree with you, but if you refer to me then i am all legal wether you agree or not thats fact!! However if your talking in general terms ref licencing and things then yes you have a point!! I also find myself having to agree with Grandad though, afterall its there in black and white!!!! :wink:
Author:  kermit2482 [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:51 am ]
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TDO wrote:
HAVANT we been here before? :lol:


Yeah good aint it, but at least it seems to be more sensible debate this time rather than LIES, lets see how long that can last!!!! :mrgreen:
Author:  no tips [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:56 am ]
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Quote:
This may be an honest answer but it not true. We have unlicensed taxis flying around with unlicensed drivers all the time. Read the no signage thread.

Yes its not Limos its Taxis its PH. why should we do it right and pay our dues and these ******* get away with it. if found guilty there cars/limos should be crushed how ever much they are worth.
Author:  kermit2482 [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:06 am ]
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no tips wrote:
Quote:
This may be an honest answer but it not true. We have unlicensed taxis flying around with unlicensed drivers all the time. Read the no signage thread.

Yes its not Limos its Taxis its PH. why should we do it right and pay our dues and these ******* get away with it. if found guilty there cars/limos should be crushed how ever much they are worth.


QUOTE, why should we do it right and pay our dues, I THINK THAT SAYS IT ALL REALLY FELLA, THANK YOU!! I too believe if they are found to be illegal then the vehicles ought to be crushed, but now your in an honest frame of mind would you not agree that this should also be adopted on the taxi side too, regardless of how much or how little they spend on their vehicles and no thats not a trick question either!! :wink:
Author:  no tips [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:43 pm ]
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Limos taxi Ph mini buses coaches any that are not licensed and legal should be taken to book and there vehicles crushed.
The jury is still out on your self drive hire lark..though.
as I and a lot of others still think you should have a opporators licence.
Author:  kermit2482 [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:58 pm ]
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So we are agreed on something then, and you taxi drivers jury might still be out but lets be totally honest here its not about what you lot think here its really about what the courts think and SO FAR there has been NO PROSECUTIONS against anyone using this system in the correct fashion!!

I too will watch closely though at any intended prosecutions as i am sure you will too!! :wink:
Author:  no tips [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:45 pm ]
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One point The courts apoint a jury that is made up of people like us some may be taxi or PH drivers. So what we think could very well effect you.
a local Plod or VOSA officer might be feeling your coller sooner than you think. The vosa men at the test station are so angry with what you are doing, I was there again last week ,
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