Its on page 119 ceefax
From the 1st of Jan next year all buss-es going over 31 miles must be fitted with a taco, bus companies have said it could mean the withdrawal of some urban services
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:10 am ] |
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Its on page 119 ceefax From the 1st of Jan next year all buss-es going over 31 miles must be fitted with a taco, bus companies have said it could mean the withdrawal of some urban services
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| Author: | gusmac [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:08 am ] |
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EU rules 'threaten' rural buses Rural bus firms have warned EU limits on drivers' hours, and the cost of the devices needed to monitor them, will disrupt journeys and cut services. From 1 January, any buses on routes over 31 miles (50km) will be fitted with a tachograph to ensure drivers are keeping to EU driving hours limits. Bus firms say the £1,000 cost of the device is too much, and will force them to split routes, causing disruption. The transport workers' union said tough rules were needed to protect drivers. Urban lifelines Ben Colson, who runs a small bus company in Norfolk, is lobbying the government over the new rules on behalf of a number of bus companies. He said the worst hit routes will be those that are lifelines for urban communities who want to access the surrounding countryside. He explained that because it is only the occasional bus routes running out from the city that go over the 31-mile limit, it will not be cost effective to install the tachographs on these few buses, and bus firms are likely to discontinue the service. As well as the installation fees, the devices cost £500 a year to re-calibrate. One route running out of Leeds is already scheduled to be discontinued. We're asking for two days off so drivers can have a family life, a life off the job Tom Cashman, Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU) The bus company Arriva is stopping its weekend service from Leeds into the Yorkshire Dales because of the cost of installing the tachographs. Passengers said many of the people who use the bus do not have cars, and without the service they will simply be unable to access the countryside. One solution has been to stop a bus just before the 31-mile limit, and make passengers change onto a new one. Tom Cashman, of the Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU), said it was vital for both passengers and drivers that the drivers were not forced to drive dangerously long hours. He also said that the new rules would give drivers the right to two consecutive days off within every fortnight. Driver fatigue Mr Cashman said: "European hours offer the possibility of having a civilised family life. "It's not considered unreasonable on other jobs to have a weekend off, and in this job we're not even asking for a weekend off when everyone else is off. "We're asking for two days off so drivers can have a family life, a life off the job." The Vehicle and Operator Services Agency (VOSA) which regulates the industry, said it was not its intention to burden firms and drivers with pointless red tape. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) said the spirit of the legislation is to ensure that drivers are deployed safely in a way that minimises the effects of driver fatigue. They said the legislation does not prohibit operators using vehicles on routes that exceed 31 miles, it simply states that if operators do operate services on such routes, then they should use tachographs. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7107057.stm Published: 2007/11/22 15:15:41 GMT © BBC MMVII |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:33 am ] |
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Well that will mean all the 95 services here that run between Edinburgh and Carlisle, 100 miles and the 62 that runs from Edinburgh and Melrose 41 miles, and any other Edinburgh service that runs to the Borders. It should be good to see what happens maybe more work for me 
I know that first bus are struggling to get drivers here, and there was a threatened strike due for Monday, as the drivers in Edinburgh are payed £0.80p more an hour. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BUS COMPANYS UP IN ARMS |
skippy41 wrote: Its on page 119 ceefax
From the 1st of Jan next year all buss-es going over 31 miles must be fitted with a taco, bus companies have said it could mean the withdrawal of some urban services 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:50 pm ] |
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gusmac wrote: Tom Cashman, of the Transport and General Workers Union (TGWU), said it was vital for both passengers and drivers that the drivers were not forced to drive dangerously long hours.
F*** me, a T&G official with a sack full of sense. 
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| Author: | edders23 [ Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:11 pm ] |
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well they can't all be like our "mate" terry |
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| Author: | jimbo [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BUS COMPANYS UP IN ARMS |
skippy41 wrote: Its on page 119 ceefax
From the 1st of Jan next year all buss-es going over 31 miles must be fitted with a taco, bus companies have said it could mean the withdrawal of some urban services No taco's round here, we are too posh. They are having enchilada's. 
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| Author: | jimbo [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:51 am ] |
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How long before Taxi's and PH have to be fitted with Tachographs? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:17 pm ] |
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jimbo wrote: How long before Taxi's and PH have to be fitted with Tachographs?
Most taxis have them, but we call them meters.
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:55 am ] |
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I spoke to one of my mates last night and he drives for first bus, I mentioned the taco's to him and he said that the drivers are not pleased as they have to pay £39.00 for a licence to operate the dam things, and that all other bus company's are paying this for the drivers but first refuses to do it, and all drivers must pay for there own, and if they do not have it by the 1st of JAN they will be sent home without pay |
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| Author: | GA [ Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:45 pm ] |
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Are we ready for the same regualtions to be applied to us. ????????? B. Lucky
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