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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Minicab attempted rape |
GREENWICH: Attempted rape in minicab By Staff Reporter Police are looking for a minicab driver in connection with an attempted rape in Greenwich. Two women had been on a night out at Bar du Musee, Nelson Road, when they got into a licensed cab at 1.20am last Thursday (June 19) to take them home. The driver tried to rape one of the women in Church Street, Greenwich, around 25 minutes later after dropping the other one off at her home. His victim managed to fight him off and ran to her home where she called the police. The suspect is described as being a white man in his 40s, medium build with short brown hair and was going bald. He also had a distinctive Merseyside accent and was driving a silver saloon, possibly a Ford Mondeo. advertisementAnyone with any information should call the police on 020 8284 8774 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111. |
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| Author: | JD [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab attempted rape |
GBC wrote: Two women had been on a night out at Bar du Musee, Nelson Road, when they got into a licensed cab at 1.20am last Thursday (June 19) to take them home.
How does she know it was a licensed cab when she obviously picked it up off the street? Regards JD |
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:52 pm ] |
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I was thinking that. 
If it was pre-booked, I would have thought the operator details would have been known. However, as mentioned on some other threads, a lot of London PH drivers operate as one man bands via a mobile as they believe this is acceptable. It could of course be a misprint by the paper. |
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| Author: | JD [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:00 pm ] |
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GBC wrote: I was thinking that. If it was pre-booked, I would have thought the operator details would have been known. Exactly. Quote: However, as mentioned on some other threads, a lot of London PH drivers operate as one man bands via a mobile as they believe this is acceptable. It is illegal, however one would assume that if a person booked a cab by telephone then they would know which firm or one man band they had phoned. Needles to say that no matter where they phoned from a record is automatically stored of calls made from that location. Quote: It could of course be a misprint by the paper.
Anything is possible with regard to human error. Regards JD |
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| Author: | thomasthetaxi [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:26 pm ] |
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Why are you being so naive? This is what happens when PHV drivers are aloud to park outside venues touting to pick up customers who come out. With no paper trial, they are anonymous and untraceable and they know it. This behavior is unacceptable and has to be stopped by TFL and the Police. Serious sexual attacks including rapes in London by PHV and unlicensed mini cab drivers run at 7.5 a month (figures released by TFL) |
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| Author: | Sandy McNab [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Minicab attempted rape |
JD wrote: GBC wrote: Two women had been on a night out at Bar du Musee, Nelson Road, when they got into a licensed cab at 1.20am last Thursday (June 19) to take them home. How does she know it was a licensed cab when she obviously picked it up off the street? Regards JD |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:54 pm ] |
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thomasthetaxi wrote: Why are you being so naive? This is what happens when PHV drivers are aloud to park outside venues touting to pick up customers who come out. With no paper trial, they are anonymous and untraceable and they know it. Bang on!! Welcome to the world of Licenced PHV!! This problem is just starting in London, because PH has in recent years become licensed, so they are now 'legal'. In the sticks we've had it for 30 years or so. Just wait another 10 years when they've really got their confidence up & their bottle & cheek will be something else. You'll have them ranking in herds outside night clubs, bars, theatres, etc etc. And there is nothing the cab trade will be able to do about it, because they will out-number you by at least 8 to 1 by then. And the police; they won't be bothered nor have the time to be bothered. All they will want to do is get the punters home after a night out as fast as they can. So anything will do, taxi, PHV, milkfloat, dustcart; its all the same to the police, because the sooner the streets are cleared of night-clubbers, the less chance there is of trouble erupting. Then you will see what the rest of the cab trade in the country has had to put up with for decades. thomasthetaxi wrote: This behavior is unacceptable and has to be stopped by TFL and the Police.
Now you're the one being naive. |
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| Author: | thomasthetaxi [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:49 pm ] |
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Brummie Cabbie wrote: thomasthetaxi wrote: This behavior is unacceptable and has to be stopped by TFL and the Police. Now you're the one being naive. Cant argue with that. I am naive because I thought other Licensed Taxi drivers cared about their profession. You also said Just wait another 10 years when they've really got their confidence up & their bottle & cheek will be something else. You'll have them ranking in herds outside night clubs, bars, theatres, etc etc. And there is nothing the cab trade will be able to do about it, because they will out-number you by at least 8 to 1 by then. We haven't had to wait that long. every venue in London has a clipboard man standing outside with ranks of touting PHV (Licensed), Even pubs and restaurants now have Clipboard men outside. What ever happened to their radio account work? No wonder John Griffin and Steve Lewis are complaining to TFL even they want to stop the touting and poaching and they started it. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:47 pm ] |
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I take it all HC drivers are beyond reproach and theres never been a rape by a HC driver then?.... |
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:02 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: I take it all HC drivers are beyond reproach and theres never been a rape by a HC driver then?....
No. But in London I can only think of two since the early 90's. Out of 25'000 drivers, you'll always get a couple. One was a black guy who gave himself up to the Police back in 1992ish, and the more recent one (2008) was 'Champagne Charlie' who offered females drugged drinks. He too is now locked up. The 'oppostions' numbers would run into the hundreds. Before 2001 anyone could drive a Minicab regardless of their background. Since then their problem is they can only recruit drivers from countries which, to say the least, have dubious criminal justice systems where corruption is common place. All they need is a certificate of good character from their home country. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:08 pm ] |
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it looks to me like the term "minicab driver" is being used to to slur PHV drivers, when (as far as i can see) a PHV and HC driver have to go through the same process to get a badge, indeed my application is for a "hackney+private hire driver" badge the problem seems to be rogue/fake taxi drivers, who happen to use saloons, having a Lti on the drive with no plate could be a dead giveaway are most UMC drivers of eastern-bloc nationality down in the smoke? |
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| Author: | GBC [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:14 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: a PHV and HC driver have to go through the same process to get a badge, indeed my application is for a "hackney+private hire driver" badge
That may well be the case out in the provinces, but in London Licensed Taxi drivers spend on average three years doing the Knowledge, tests, driving tests and wheelchair training. Watch BBC 4 from 7pm this coming Saturday, all will be explained. 
London Minicab companies have always employed mainly immigrant labour, it's no different today except most of the new arrivals come from Poland or the former Eastern Block countries. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:33 pm ] |
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thomasthetaxi wrote: ....... because I thought other Licensed Taxi drivers cared about their profession. I do care about my profession, that's why I believe the Hackney trade should be leading the way & not following behind, should drafting new legislation become a reality. thomasthetaxi wrote: We haven't had to wait that long. every venue in London has a clipboard man standing outside with ranks of touting PHV (Licensed), Even pubs and restaurants now have Clipboard men outside. What ever happened to their radio account work?
No wonder John Griffin and Steve Lewis are complaining to TFL even they want to stop the touting and poaching and they started it. What are the police & TfL doing about the clipboard men? Isn't that against their operator's licence conditions, or do London PH operator's licences work differently than in the sticks? Touting? |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:48 pm ] |
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GBC wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: a PHV and HC driver have to go through the same process to get a badge, indeed my application is for a "hackney+private hire driver" badge That may well be the case out in the provinces, but in London Licensed Taxi drivers spend on average three years doing the Knowledge, tests, driving tests and wheelchair training. Watch BBC 4 from 7pm this coming Saturday, all will be explained. London Minicab companies have always employed mainly immigrant labour, it's no different today except most of the new arrivals come from Poland or the former Eastern Block countries. I quite understand about "the knowledge", etc, and have every respect fot the london HC drivers (albeit they dont seem to realise they DONT own the road and my sprinter was bigger and harder than an Lti) but london isnt the whole of the uk..... |
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