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DONT FORGET THE BOYCOT ON THE CUMBERLAND STARTING ON THE 1ST SEP. ALL YOU GREEN BADGE DRIVERS :doubt:


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DONT FORGET THE BOYCOT ON THE CUMBERLAND STARTING ON THE 1ST SEP. ALL YOU GREEN BADGE DRIVERS :doubt:

Are you not paying the doorman enough then? :roll:

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never paid for a job in 23 years,and never will.


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never paid for a job in 23 years,and never will.

Paid for every job in the last 20 years. :sad:

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DONT FORGET THE BOYCOT ON THE CUMBERLAND STARTING ON THE 1ST SEP. ALL YOU GREEN BADGE DRIVERS :doubt:


That'll be the one organised by the LTDA?

Just sit back and watch the likes of Andersonshelter and his J reg Taxi mates scab the boycott.


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GBC make up your mind,in a previous post you stated LTDA was an association,not a union.
Therefore "andersonshelter and his likes,"whatever that means ,are perfectly at liberty to pick up there if they wish.Look up the dictionary the meaning of scab.
Please let me know if you will be pickiting the hotel?
Also are you going to tell the forum wether you charged passengers the legal extras?


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GBC make up your mind,in a previous post you stated LTDA was an association,not a union.
Therefore "andersonshelter and his likes,"whatever that means ,are perfectly at liberty to pick up there if they wish.Look up the dictionary the meaning of scab.
Please let me know if you will be pickiting the hotel?
Also are you going to tell the forum wether you charged passengers the legal extras?



Your sounding more like Andersonshelter by the day Mr TCB, some might suspect your yet another reincarnation of that username.

Imagine that, surely not? :shock:

Yes I will be at the Hotel for an evening doing my bit, will you?

Yes I charged extra's when they were legal and never more that the fare sheet allowed, more often a lot less than the fare sheet permitted.

Back then you had to as the night rate was so crap, but thank's to the LTDA we now have a good rate 2 and 3 which earns me more than the much abused extra's button ever did.

Leave it to the paying members, we'll help those drivers who need the £16 more than we do.


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no I will not ,the touts should have been sorted out 25 years ago,thats what I payed the LTDA sub`s for,over many years.that was always the LTDA`s mantra.thats one of the reasons for their being
Boycott today, they will be back tommorrow.you should know it will be useless, unless you have a100% boycott.
AmI not right in thinking that it`s not only the LTDA that negotiate the trades tariff increases,they are just part of the negotiating team?
Where is the Grand central hotel?
Thank the paying memebers of LTDA et.al. for pickiting on my behalf.
Every one a gent.


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no I will not ,the touts should have been sorted out 25 years ago,thats what I payed the LTDA sub`s for,over many years.that was always the LTDA`s mantra.thats one of the reasons for their being
Boycott today, they will be back tommorrow.you should know it will be useless, unless you have a100% boycott.
AmI not right in thinking that it`s not only the LTDA that negotiate the trades tariff increases,they are just part of the negotiating team?
Where is the Grand central hotel?
Thank the paying memebers of LTDA et.al. for pickiting on my behalf.
Every one a gent.



The elected leadership of the LTDA are not the same folks from 25 years ago.

They were formed to oppose the Minicab trade, some things just cannot be defeated as your mates from the LCDC found out recently with their legal challenge to TFL.

Sometimes you just have to accept the opposition is there, and we have to keep up with times as I think we are doing now.

The Minicab trade would have been driving around with for hire signs (legally) by now if it had'nt been for the intervention of the LTDA, LTG, TGWU and (not forgetting my old buddies) the LCDC.

100% Boycott? It's a bit like membership of a trade body, you'll never ever acheive that, 25'000 self employed drivers will always be just that.

I suspect, like previous demo's, things will improve after next weeks action. Perhaps Mr A can be the cameraman? :wink:

The Grand Central? New York last time I looked.


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I do not have any mates in the LCDC.
I dont know why you seem to think I am someone else.
at least you have admited that the LTDA were formed to combat the minicabs.a job, whoever is in charge ,they have failed miserably at.
25 years ago there was probably a few hundred minicab drivers,today 40,000.
If they had done their job properly there would be no need for boycott
Any one for a cheap day out to alton towers on Monday?`s.


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I do not have any mates in the LCDC.
I dont know why you seem to think I am someone else.
at least you have admited that the LTDA were formed to combat the minicabs.a job, whoever is in charge ,they have failed miserably at.
25 years ago there was probably a few hundred minicab drivers,today 40,000.
If they had done their job properly there would be no need for boycott
Any one for a cheap day out to alton towers on Monday?`s.



Sigh. I'll try again. :roll:

What legislation were they, or anyone else meant to evoke to 'rid London of Minicabs' then Mr TCB?

As I said, just like the legislation on Pedicabs and Emissions systems, there are some things which you can't change no matter how much money and time you throw at it. If no one was willing to provide legislation (as in an act of Parliament) just how did you propose the LTDA was to 'Ban minicabs' ?

The only council that tried to introduce legislation was Westminster, however as the only trade body that took part, as in the LTDA, they were greeted by a wall of disinterest by every other local authority and Taxi organisation in London, and the plan went no further.

Clear?


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I do not have any mates in the LCDC.
I dont know why you seem to think I am someone else.
at least you have admited that the LTDA were formed to combat the minicabs.a job, whoever is in charge ,they have failed miserably at.
25 years ago there was probably a few hundred minicab drivers,today 40,000.
If they had done their job properly there would be no need for boycott
Any one for a cheap day out to alton towers on Monday?`s.


Seems to me there's a demand for minicabs...otherwise they wouldnt be there.....(wow JD I did write that).

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GBC very unclear.stop playing with words.
you obviously have not been in the LTDA for as long as I was.the LTDA did not try to ban minicabs,they were to try and stop the scurge of them,as I said in a previous post,once there was a few hundred,now there are up wards of 40,000.
Go and see that nice John Thomas (my door is always open) tell him you dont want a cheap holiday or a day out in alton towers.Ask him what the articles of memorandum were (all associations must have them) when the
LTDA were formed.


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GBC very unclear.stop playing with words.
you obviously have not been in the LTDA for as long as I was.the LTDA did not try to ban minicabs,they were to try and stop the scurge of them,as I said in a previous post,once there was a few hundred,now there are up wards of 40,000.
Go and see that nice John Thomas (my door is always open) tell him you dont want a cheap holiday or a day out in alton towers.Ask him what the articles of memorandum were (all associations must have them) when the
LTDA were formed.


It's not unclear Mr TCB, it seems you have a problem with accepting the truth and reality of the situation that exsisted back then and has lead to what we see today.
The reason Minicabs have been allowed to flourish is because drivers of (your era?) the 1970's and 1980's allowed them to.

'I ain't going south'

'I ain't working the paddy fields'

'I ain't working Balham'

'I ain't working . . .

They got a foothold, and now you see the results.

I'll take Clapham as a classic, during the mid to late 1990's (most) drivers would tear back along Clapham High Street ignoring hands going up left, right and centre.

As a result the Minicabs and Minicab touts moved in and took over.

Only now, as a result of the Yellow Badge Lads being allowed up into that area, is the trade winning back custom, and folks know they'll get a real taxi.

So the spread of the Minicabs is down to those now ageing drivers who refused to work or take jobs to certain areas (and still do), not one trade body. [-X

Thank god the lads passing out today don't take that same outdated attitude that has allowed the opposition to flourish.


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