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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:43 pm 
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Daily Mirror today revelations that the Gvt have agreed that every section of the NHS is up for Privatization, in other words let the CRIMINALS in to destroy the NHS, anyone think its a good idea ????????????????

Well if the Mirror say it it must be true. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:46 pm 
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Who are all these health tourists edders? and who do you suppose peddles that crap?

Be in no-doubt they exist.

The nearest A&E to Gatwick is a very busy international hospital.

I didn't take you as being a naive person.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:46 pm 
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I'm not entirely sure whether or not it should be privatised. I am of the opinion that emergency & life threatening treatment should be free whatever they decide. I do think that the country has lost it's way somewhat and apathy is ever increasing :sad:

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
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I'm not entirely sure whether or not it should be privatised. I am of the opinion that emergency & life threatening treatment should be free whatever they decide. I do think that the country has lost it's way somewhat and apathy is ever increasing :sad:

You are already to late with the free emergency and life threatening treatment. Any costs for injuries that are the result of a road traffic accident are claimed from the insurance company. If you go to your own doctor to get a report for injuries that resulted from a road traffic accident you will be charged for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:46 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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Who are all these health tourists edders? and who do you suppose peddles that crap?

Be in no-doubt they exist.

The nearest A&E to Gatwick is a very busy international hospital.

I didn't take you as being a naive person.


No, I'm not naive Sussex. Naive would be thinking that selling it off is the solution.
If health tourists really are a problem, then do something about it. Private medicine would have no problem telling them to bugger off.

Don't use it as a lame excuse to flog a national asset off to your mates so they can make a killing at our expense.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:22 am 
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gusmac wrote:
Sussex wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Who are all these health tourists edders? and who do you suppose peddles that crap?

Be in no-doubt they exist.

The nearest A&E to Gatwick is a very busy international hospital.

I didn't take you as being a naive person.


No, I'm not naive Sussex. Naive would be thinking that selling it off is the solution.
If health tourists really are a problem, then do something about it. Private medicine would have no problem telling them to bugger off.

Don't use it as a lame excuse to flog a national asset off to your mates so they can make a killing at our expense.

Interesting choice of words.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:00 am 
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grandad wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Be in no-doubt they exist.

The nearest A&E to Gatwick is a very busy international hospital.

I didn't take you as being a naive person.


No, I'm not naive Sussex. Naive would be thinking that selling it off is the solution.
If health tourists really are a problem, then do something about it. Private medicine would have no problem telling them to bugger off.

Don't use it as a lame excuse to flog a national asset off to your mates so they can make a killing at our expense.

Interesting choice of words.

Carefully chosen :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
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gusmac wrote:
grandad wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Don't use it as a lame excuse to flog a national asset off to your mates so they can make a killing at our expense.

Interesting choice of words.

Carefully chosen :wink:

Year right. You aren't that clever. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:59 am 
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gusmac wrote:
Sussex wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Who are all these health tourists edders? and who do you suppose peddles that crap?

Be in no-doubt they exist.

The nearest A&E to Gatwick is a very busy international hospital.

I didn't take you as being a naive person.


No, I'm not naive Sussex. Naive would be thinking that selling it off is the solution.
If health tourists really are a problem, then do something about it. Private medicine would have no problem telling them to bugger off.

Don't use it as a lame excuse to flog a national asset off to your mates so they can make a killing at our expense.

It wasn't my excuse, it was just what I'm regular told by those very close to me.

The NHS is great, however it is abused by many people amazed they don't have to pay here when they would have to pay elsewhere.

On the privatisation issue, I take the view that saying don't consider the outside contractors for some services is a daft suggestion.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
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Wish I could afford to go private, this could be my chance


what was that crazy lease/hire/rent thing Labour set up and now saddles the NHS with massive repayments?

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:12 am 
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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
I'm not entirely sure whether or not it should be privatised. I am of the opinion that emergency & life threatening treatment should be free whatever they decide. I do think that the country has lost it's way somewhat and apathy is ever increasing :sad:

You are already to late with the free emergency and life threatening treatment. Any costs for injuries that are the result of a road traffic accident are claimed from the insurance company. If you go to your own doctor to get a report for injuries that resulted from a road traffic accident you will be charged for it.


That would be the government creaming from the insurance companies, not quite the same in my view. The treatment itself is free. That said is that just the case for RTAs or is the case if you suffer a heart attack or a stroke or similar because I've not heard of anybody being charged for that :?

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:01 pm 
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toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
I'm not entirely sure whether or not it should be privatised. I am of the opinion that emergency & life threatening treatment should be free whatever they decide. I do think that the country has lost it's way somewhat and apathy is ever increasing :sad:

You are already to late with the free emergency and life threatening treatment. Any costs for injuries that are the result of a road traffic accident are claimed from the insurance company. If you go to your own doctor to get a report for injuries that resulted from a road traffic accident you will be charged for it.


That would be the government creaming from the insurance companies, not quite the same in my view. The treatment itself is free. That said is that just the case for RTAs or is the case if you suffer a heart attack or a stroke or similar because I've not heard of anybody being charged for that :?

Just RTAs at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:13 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
Daily Mirror today revelations that the Gvt have agreed that every section of the NHS is up for Privatization, in other words let the CRIMINALS in to destroy the NHS, anyone think its a good idea ????????????????


Ooooh, lets NOT privatise the NHS, after all with recent revelations, it's working perfectly well in the public sector.


Out of all the responses lets deal with the one from this dope :D

Firstly what have we got a FREE LIFE SAVING EMERGENCY ACCESS for all citizens so if Jimbo Grandad Trot Gus or any of us collapse with a heart attack we will be treated and if it turns out you need a 4 way bypass operation your get it currently for FREE. Naturally this applies to any other treatment you may require for any problem, no doubt all of you know of someone saved by the NHS or whose quality of life has been maintained by free treatment ? surely a wonderful asset for our Nation and one we are all proud of and will fight to maintain ??

So lets examine the PRIVATE health care arrangment and where better to look the USA currently 20 million citizens of the land of the free have NO health cover whatsoever, so if they have a heart attack and no cover its easy NO TREATMENT bypass operation your having a laugh no chance! If you have insurance cover once youve had your heart attack watch the premium escalated out of your reach, so you sell your home to get the money to pay for your operation and of course its the same for any illness you may get, really good that and of course this is exactly what this stinking Government want to introduce here its called privitisation.

Fact the death rate for new born children in the USA pro rata is ten times worst than in Cuba, if you cant earn out of it let em die PRIVATE HEALTH CARE is about making money NOT saving lives or treating the sick and its about time that was realised before we get lumbered with it.

When I worked as a PH Driver I covered Private hospitals The King Edward the 7th The Wellington The Saint John and Elizabeth The Harley Street clinic, The Princess Grace and others and the stories that came out would terrify you plenty of patients were unceremoniously dumped into National Health hospitals after the moneybags surgeon had fekked up this was regular occurence take their money butcher them then dump on the NHS where the same surgeon would get paid again to remedy his balls up. But the biggest con was when the Wellington Hospital arranged for semi literate Turkish peasants to have free Kidney ops as a charitable gesture ha ha but what they were really dong was nicking a kidney and transplanting it into some multi millionaire at a cost of £100 000, it came a tumble of course but is a clear indication of the morality of this Industry, no doubt it comes in handy for some queue jumping and helps greedy Doctors to cream up big time but do we ant it to replace our greatest achievement the NHS.

As for Health tourists bollocks anyone treated by the NHS who isnt a citizen GETS A BILL FOR ANY TREATMENT AND IS PURSUED FOR THE PAYMENT no doubt some do a runner, but is it a major problem NO OF COURSE NOT JUST TORY VERMIN PROPOGANDA TO DEFLECT THE DEBATE AND SO GLEEFULLY JUMPED ON BY THE CRETIN SECTION :D

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 Post subject: Re: Privatizing the NHS
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:03 pm 
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So the whole world is at it eh? and the solution is to sell the whole lot off to scumbags.

I suppose it would be too difficult to close whatever loopholes are being exploited here :roll:



No my solution would be to close the loopholes by making it a condition that you have UK residency to qualify for free treatment otherwise insurance company pays

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