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 Post subject: Re: OUTRAGEOUS
PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:26 am 
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"Chris the Fish"]It is ONLY about the labelling of food.


Well let them import what they want from their country of origin with the correct label.

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You are right, we do not force anyone to live here, but we do allow them to do so. You can't enforce the condition that you're suggesting that they conform to "full integration" or your expelled.


Oh yes, we can but more to the point it should be a condition of being allowed to stay in this country in the first place. :-|

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Anyone can start a School, the State can only be involved if the State are providing funding. If the funding is provided it can be conditional that the National Curriculum is provided, choice of Religion would remain with the Headmaster and Governors. Jewish schools have existed since the Commonwealth in the 17th Century, Roman Catholic (openly) since emancipation in 1829 and the Church of England for longer than both of those. Take away the Assisted Religious Schools and education in the UK would collapse.


Indoctrinating children with religious nonsense is tantamount to child-abuse and should be banned from schools altogether. And education would not collapse, that is nonsense, and it does not help people to become integrated into society. :-|

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If a market is there it will be provided for, Halal and Kosher have a market. For that matter there are any number of other religious and/or cultural diets that are also provided, you are free to indulge, you are free to abhor. All that matters is the freedom of choice.


So let them import the food of their choice, the market is still there, without having to recreate their country in the UK with their religious nonsense attached.

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Churches, Synagogues, Mosques, Temples, Meeting rooms (and the list goes on) etc. are paid for by the users, unaided by the state, so I am so pleased that you will allow them to remain. The Country would be culturally so much worse off if our Medieval Cathedrals and Churches, historically significant Synagogues and the like were bulldozed to make room for pre-stun slaughterhouses.


Aye well, I'm not happy about it, however, I do appreciate history but without the insidious belief systems. Oh and believe it or not I am not against multiculturalism, but I am against religion.

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mmmmmmmmmmmm set a row off there alright :badgrin: :badgrin:

Anyway my opinion is clear

Only humane slaughter should be permitted, all groups should be free to set up their schools to conform with their faith, state schools should be able to serve their pupils all food without RELIGIOUS interference.

Halal and Kosher slaughter methods should be BANNED......................their cruel and unnecessary, importing Halal and Kosher meat slaughtered in accordance with the religious requirements should be banned.

as a believer in left wing democratic socialism they are my views =D> =D> =D>

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HALAL UPDATE: You may have seen our CEO, Philip Lymbery, on ITV this morning talking about Halal slaughter. We are receiving a phenomenal number of calls on this issue with similar questions, so wanted to share our position with you. If you do have questions on the current media debate then please click here http://ciwf.org.uk/news/compassion_news ... dium=email to read our latest news story and sign a petition.

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I am going to have to debate with TT as well then.

You would allow faith groups to have their schools, great. Part of what they teach will be the religious requirement for Kosher or Halal or whatever. Then you would stop the access to the required ingredients!

Finally, a does a "Left Wing Democratic Socialist" not think that "Religion is the Opiate of the Masses" (K Marx) and should therefore be suppressed? Perhaps now that the Communist Ideal has been fully tried and tested, then found to be unpractical, unworkable and unsustainable, the views of the hard left are being modified?

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I am going to have to debate with TT as well then.

You would allow faith groups to have their schools, great. Part of what they teach will be the religious requirement for Kosher or Halal or whatever. Then you would stop the access to the required ingredients!

Finally, a does a "Left Wing Democratic Socialist" not think that "Religion is the Opiate of the Masses" (K Marx) and should therefore be suppressed? Perhaps now that the Communist Ideal has been fully tried and tested, then found to be unpractical, unworkable and unsustainable, the views of the hard left are being modified?


This is not about competing political ideologies. #-o This is about stopping religion having any influence on political policy and how we run our lives. We don't want separatism, and that's the whole point. Why should anyone be allowed to stay here with the expectation of recreating their country of origin by cutting themselves off from the rest of society, and imposing their socio-religious beliefs on us? It's a fu*king joke, integrate or get out. :evil: Our political "leaders" should be drawing a line in the sand. :evil:

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It's not about labeling of food it's about full integration into our society. :-|



OUR society has evolved and changed every year, day in, day out for over 4 thousand years, which bit of it is OUR society, today? yesterday? last month?

You seem to want to pick and choose what you keep or lose, it doesnt work like that

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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It's not about labeling of food it's about full integration into our society. :-|



OUR society has evolved and changed every year, day in, day out for over 4 thousand years, which bit of it is OUR society, today? yesterday? last month?

You seem to want to pick and choose what you keep or lose, it doesnt work like that


I do not want to pick and choose. I welcome all cultures and what they have to offer except for religious fanaticism. I actually believe in the "melting pot" theory of how society will eventually evolve; Coffee coloured people and all that, like in the song. :-|

So when I say, "our society" this means a society free from religious dogma, like how some Scandinavian countries are developing such as Sweden.

Religion is for nutters and fanatics who have trouble thinking for themselves and just can't wait to meet their sky daddy. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: OUTRAGEOUS
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Oh and Wannabee, let's be quite clear. I hate, loathe and despise religion in nearly all its guises, and in particular, Muhammadanism. :evil: There are a few exceptions, but they are relatively harmless and more philosophical in nature and lack the sky daddy approach to believing in bullsh*t. #-o

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as a believer in left wing democratic socialism they are my views



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contradiction in terms (plural contradictions in terms)

A phrase or expression in which the component words contradict one another, often unintentionally, or are claimed to do so when seen from a particular point of view.

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 Post subject: Re: OUTRAGEOUS
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wannabeeahack wrote:
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/64331



been away and watching the GUNNERS polish orf Hull tosserrs =D> =D> =D>

anyway the petition so kindly posted by wanna represents my concerns and of course i have signed it =D> =D> =D>


YOU WANT TO TORTURE ANIMALS .........................NOT HERE SUNSHINE FEKK ORF :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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YOU WANT TO TORTURE ANIMALS .........................NOT HERE SUNSHINE FEKK ORF



So what about Intensive (battery) chicken production and veal production terry, are you ok with these?

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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YOU WANT TO TORTURE ANIMALS .........................NOT HERE SUNSHINE FEKK ORF



So what about Intensive (battery) chicken production and veal production terry, are you ok with these?


Definitely not :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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trotskys twin wrote:
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YOU WANT TO TORTURE ANIMALS .........................NOT HERE SUNSHINE FEKK ORF



So what about Intensive (battery) chicken production and veal production terry, are you ok with these?


Definitely not :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


THAT SHUT YER IGNORANT GOB DIDN'T IT WANNA HEIL ..................WELL DONE TT =D> =D> =D>

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