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 Post subject: Re: Syria
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:58 pm 
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A crude balance of what?


Well think about it, if the Shia and Sunni Muslims keep knocking lumps out of each other, is it such a bad thing? Do we really want a resolution to this conflict? Is it not better just to help them massacre each other in ever-increasing numbers, with no outright winner ever being established?

It's a crude balance of sorts... :-|


Not what I meant. You seemed to be talking about all war, not just inter-muslim conflict. :?

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That's exactly my point, I think War, is a part of the human condition, as is, greed, power and control. I'm not sure whether man will ever evolve beyond the point of killing each other to bring about peace. There's been wars, as long as I can remember. In fact, it's one of the first things you are taught when you are a child. :?

It could be argued that war, is a necessary evil to maintain a crude balance on a planet inhabited by humans. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Syria
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:11 pm 
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It could be argued that war, is a necessary evil to maintain a crude balance on a planet inhabited by humans. :?


I'd like to see you enlighten us on that statement.

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It could be argued that war, is a necessary evil to maintain a crude balance on a planet inhabited by humans. :?


I'd like to see you enlighten us on that statement.


Likewise.

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gusmac wrote:
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A crude balance of what?


Well think about it, if the Shia and Sunni Muslims keep knocking lumps out of each other, is it such a bad thing? Do we really want a resolution to this conflict? Is it not better just to help them massacre each other in ever-increasing numbers, with no outright winner ever being established?

It's a crude balance of sorts... :-|


Not what I meant. You seemed to be talking about all war, not just inter-muslim conflict. :?

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That's exactly my point, I think War, is a part of the human condition, as is, greed, power and control. I'm not sure whether man will ever evolve beyond the point of killing each other to bring about peace. There's been wars, as long as I can remember. In fact, it's one of the first things you are taught when you are a child. :?

It could be argued that war, is a necessary evil to maintain a crude balance on a planet inhabited by humans. :?


Well, if you accept war as part of the human condition, then it comes down to who controls the conflicts in their own best interests.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria who really cares? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Syria
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Well, if you accept war as part of the human condition, then it comes down to who controls the conflicts in their own best interests.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria who really cares? :?


Part of the human condition?

Sorry that's a crock.

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captain cab wrote:
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Well, if you accept war as part of the human condition, then it comes down to who controls the conflicts in their own best interests.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria who really cares? :?


Part of the human condition?

Sorry that's a crock.


I would like to think it is a crock, and I doubt if it lends itself to scientific study but how do you explain wars springing up all over the place and ongoing for decades, if not centuries?

Surely, if war isn't a part of the human condition, then we, as a species would have learned that lesson by now? It's not like we've fallen short on practice. :?

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I would like to think it is a crock, and I doubt if it lends itself to scientific study but how do you explain wars springing up all over the place and ongoing for decades, if not centuries?

Surely, if war isn't a part of the human condition, then we, as a species would have learned that lesson by now? It's not like we've fallen short on practice. :?


mental condition - psyche at a push

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Skull wrote:
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Well, if you accept war as part of the human condition, then it comes down to who controls the conflicts in their own best interests.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria who really cares? :?


Part of the human condition?

Sorry that's a crock.


I would like to think it is a crock, and I doubt if it lends itself to scientific study but how do you explain wars springing up all over the place and ongoing for decades, if not centuries?

Surely, if war isn't a part of the human condition, then we, as a species would have learned that lesson by now? It's not like we've fallen short on practice. :?


Don't all animals fight for superiority?

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 Post subject: Re: Syria
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:22 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
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I would like to think it is a crock, and I doubt if it lends itself to scientific study but how do you explain wars springing up all over the place and ongoing for decades, if not centuries?

Surely, if war isn't a part of the human condition, then we, as a species would have learned that lesson by now? It's not like we've fallen short on practice. :?


mental condition - psyche at a push


Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?

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Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?


do sane people go to war to kill each other?

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Skull wrote:
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I would like to think it is a crock, and I doubt if it lends itself to scientific study but how do you explain wars springing up all over the place and ongoing for decades, if not centuries?

Surely, if war isn't a part of the human condition, then we, as a species would have learned that lesson by now? It's not like we've fallen short on practice. :?


mental condition - psyche at a push


Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?


Or it could be the old nature or nurture argument.

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I think we are simply animals locked into an arm's race of trying to find more ingenious ways to kill each other in the name of peace. And once we've invented a new weapon. We've just got to try it out on someone, American and British unmanned drone aircraft being a case in point. :-|

Boys and their toys eh... #-o

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captain cab wrote:
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Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?


do sane people go to war to kill each other?


Seems like they do......regularly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:48 am 
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Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?


do sane people go to war to kill each other?


Seems like they do......regularly.


Only those with some kind of need to control everything ffs

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:29 am 
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captain cab wrote:
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Is this the mad or bad argument raising it's ugly head as there seems to be a huge amount of both? :?


do sane people go to war to kill each other?


Depends on your definition of sane...

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