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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:56 pm 
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the same as a Scottish win in the calcutta cup :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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Looks like she is going for another legally binding referendum. I think I would tell her that she has already had a legally binding referendum so by definition she is bound by that decision now jog on.

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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grandad wrote:
Looks like she is going for another legally binding referendum. I think I would tell her that she has already had a legally binding referendum so by definition she is bound by that decision now jog on.


She should not get another bite at the cherry, we voted to remain just 30 months ago and we are still suffering from the economic cost of the divisions that that caused due to the lingering economic uncertainty up here, and the SNPs own economic and political ineptitude in governance has only made matters worse, all those years in charge and done nowt..

Another unwanted Indy ref would drive many business either away from Scotland or off of coming to Scotland at the cost of many thousands of Jobs and national wealth, I'd happily sell up here and move half a mile over the border to England rather as endure the tyranny of the Control freaks at the SNP run Holyrood.

Even if she does get her way she'll lose, she's boasting of a win based on a single poll carried out on an emotionally charged public just after a Brexit vote that was not to most of their liking...still it was to the liking of at least 1 million Scots who voted for Brexit.

When the Scots once again start to think with their heads and not their hearts they'll quickly realise we have very little industrial might or economic wealth to fall back on post Indy, No oil revenue either.

Sturgeons very argument for leaving the UK was to protect Scotlands position in the EU, that plan falls flat straight away as Scotland will be out of the EU in any case, and without the safety net of a UK wide UK/EU deal. The EU have already said that we'll have to reapply to join it but we'll be in the queue at the very back, by the time we get to being considered for membership it is highly likely that Spain and France will both blackball our application due to their own separatists seeking independence. Hell the EU may not even exist in it's present form by 2020 and there may well be nothing left of any merit to join.

So, where will we be then...up sh1t creek without a paddle most likely, no UK trading partners, not part of the UK and not part of the EU, indeed we'd be well and truly shafted by our own current Scottish leader....Sturgeon, no Money, no Future and no hope, all we would have become is a poor little country of 5 million people stuck without any friends in a Dog eat Dog world of around 7 Billion people!

Now, whether your a Scot that voted to Remain in the EU or not you'll soon see the folly of fragmenting the UK still further by trying to leave it, you'll see that those people who Sturgeon and her mates see's as the Auld enemy are infact the only true friends we have left in the world, their future success is our future success, their political freedom is our political freedom, their national security in these dangerous times is ours as well...............and at that Point most right thinking Scots will start thinking with their heads and realise that in order to survive in this dangerous 21st century world we must remain a part of the UK along with our blood relatives in the English, Irish and Welsh parts of the UK.

There will still be an SNP political party but there will not be an Independent Scotland for it to Lord it over.

So Nicola, either put up or Shut up as your destined to lose what ever you do....you have truly planted the seeds of your own destruction but I'll be damned if I'm going to let you plant the seeds of mine or that of fellow countrymens.


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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bye bye Scotland, nice to meet you and all that.

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:19 am 
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captain cab wrote:
bye bye Scotland, nice to meet you and all that.


Scotland wont go anywhere, It'll always be there, just like any other land mass it's little more than a lump of rock with people living on it, sadly the people living on the Scottish lump of rock are currently living under 3 Parliaments, the EU, Holyrood and Westminster and with the first two of those mentioned being run by control freaks who claim to be democrats, the EU wishing to become a Federal state that would like to control both the UK and all it's component countries, then theirs Scotland who's "Leader" want's nothing less than full independence from the UK union in order that it can remain part of an even bigger Union that is the EU, yet oddly the EU says that that cant happen because Scotland is not a member state of the EU and only the UK is..

So, the UK is leaving the EU, a lot of Scots want to leave the EU, a lot of Scots want to stay in the EU, a lot of Scots want to leave both the UK and the EU at the same time...and all this happening without any idea of what a Scotland or the UK will be like after it leaves the EU, it could be a greater place it could be a worse place, either way it's to early to tell.

At least those in the UK that voted to leave the EU looked over the wall before they jumped, they new only an independent UK lay at the other side. Sadly the SNP have decided to Jump off the wall before knowing what lies at the other side, yes they'll not land in the UK but in the process they'll not land in the EU either...they'll simply keep falling into a big empty void without a Financial or economic Parachute to save them...madness lies there.

On the Plus side, We Scots are unlikely to vote for such a scenario, we are realists before dreamers, It could well be that A post Brexit UK is one of the best places in the world to be, but until we know for sure it's certainly safer to stay put.

TM will most likely defer Nicola Stungun her referendum until we haveleft the EU, and it might be a much more agreeable to us Scots than Nicolas fantasy vision of Scotland that can prosper on lille more goodwill and thin air.

Three Parliaments rule is two to many, We'd be better both leaving the EU and boarding up the Doors at Holyrood and leave the job to the Professional MP's at Westminster like we used to do, at least we did not have the Sh1te back then that we do now, Britain was doing Ok until the EU and Holyrood usurpers started meddling in things they knew feck all about.

Your Lucky CC, you'll just end up with one Parliament, I'm still not sure how many I'll end up with ...will it be 3 2 or 1, most likely 2..but which 2 ..will it be Holyrood/Westminster or Holyrood/Brussels, It's fechin miracle we can survive in this fecked up political climate here in Scotland, small wonder that such uncertainty is stifling growth here, at least we had fair degree of certainty prior to the creation of the EU and Holyrood, now all we have is an almighty bloody mess of Biblical proportions.

Nahh...We ain't going anywhere anytime soon as the alternative is truly awful.


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:29 am 
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If Scotland gains independence from the UK and joins the EU does that mean that there will be no guarantee that Scots currently living in England, Northern Ireland or Wales will be allowed to stay? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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Scotland will not be going anywhere soon....but it will be very popular with the incoming masses from the EU

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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First job.....New Wall....paid for by Scotland...

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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MR T wrote:
First job.....New Wall....paid for by Scotland...

I have heard that Teresa May has already phoned Donald Trump for his list of contractors who can get the job done fast.

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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I did laugh yesterday when it was on the news that Sturgeon had shocked Downing Street with the news that she wanted to call a new referendum. It must be the worst kept secret in the history of politics. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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Two good posts by Bloodnock. If Scotland wants true independence it would not be lining upto
join a union controlled by the Germans and French with as little a say on the running of the EU as what
Malta has . No the real reason on wanting to join the EU is because the NATS are more European
than Scottish, and for independence its not about Scotland its about the break up of the United Kingdom
that drives them on for a second referendum .Basically they hate the British and what it stands for and
of course the hatred of the English.

They really are bigots.


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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I struggle with the view that it's better to be controlled by Brussels than by Westminster.

Scotland sold £12.3 billion pounds worth of stuff to the EU in 2015.

Scotland sold £49.8 billion pounds worth of stuff to the rest of the UK in 2015.

This has nothing to do with Brexit, it's all about not liking the result of the last Indy Ref, and wanting another go.

So much for her lies about once in a lifetime.

Unless it was the lifetime of a goldfish.

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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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youbeenbusy wrote:
Two good posts by Bloodnock. If Scotland wants true independence it would not be lining upto
join a union controlled by the Germans and French with as little a say on the running of the EU as what
Malta has . No the real reason on wanting to join the EU is because the NATS are more European
than Scottish, and for independence its not about Scotland its about the break up of the United Kingdom
that drives them on for a second referendum .Basically they hate the British and what it stands for and
of course the hatred of the English.

They really are bigots.



Is that why thousands possibly hundreds of thousands Scots prefer to live in England.?


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
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I struggle with the view that it's better to be controlled by Brussels than by Westminster.

Scotland sold £12.3 billion pounds worth of stuff to the EU in 2015.

Scotland sold £49.8 billion pounds worth of stuff to the rest of the UK in 2015.

This has nothing to do with Brexit, it's all about not liking the result of the last Indy Ref, and wanting another go.

So much for her lies about once in a lifetime.

Unless it was the lifetime of a goldfish.


The SNP leaders remarks on Indy and the EU are about as honest as Richard Nixon's were over Watergate, he was Known as "Tricky Dicky" and she should be known as "Tricky Nicky"...it's outright lies and twisted facts from the SNP's High heid yin all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: And Sturgeon said
PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:17 pm 
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She's been pushed into it by Salmond -

I read a piece by Jim Sillars - a Scot Nat, he's getting terrible abuse by the nasties for his recent article;

http://yesthink.scot/open-letter-to-the-yes-movement/

But he seems to speak sense

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