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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 4:48 am 
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I think you might be in for a surprise Trotsk. :shock: Oh and I'm not saying that UKIP, will ever get into power, but they will affect party policy. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


Agreed.
It will drive the other parties even further to the right.
Now that might please Nidge and his EDL buddies but it won't do very much for the typical working class bloke who voted for these fekwits.

Oh I'm EDL now am I, make your fuckin mind up.


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Oh look whose crapping themselves now!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27599171

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Skull says "I agree, but while a lurch to the right is inevitable, it is the left-wing marginalised voter who feels forced into taking a stand, to protect right-wing values. Socialism is a dirty word, but nationalism is about defending your country against the immigrant horde, recreating their country of origin in your back yard and putting a stop to it. :shock: "

What happens when Brits move to places in the sun like Spain? They try to recreate England in the sun, reading The Sun, drinking warm lager and eating fish' n' chips. Most can't even be arsed to learn a bit of Spanish. 8) Maybe these are the same people who vote UKIP by proxy from England-in-the-sun and complain about immigrants taking over their land.


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One simple question.

Why do so many think that tried and tested parties that have been in government time and time again- failing every single time............are so geared to getting it right this time?

A simple fact says that we have never in our entire history been in the National debt that we now have!

Another simple fact also tells us that many other nations are also in dire financial trouble!

So on a postage stamp please tell me the financial benefits of being in the EEC, because after 40 years it has been proven time and time again...........it is getting worse!?

Also tell me as to why we have potentially let the equivalent of a foreign army in through our borders that could reek havoc at any given time?

Please do not give me the it (creates) jobs scenario, as that applies to generally isolated cases and not nationally as in years gone by when we were in the commonwealth etc.

And one other final thing........is it worth giving up our borders just so one or two do not have to wait and show their passport!!!!! ?

I have yet to see one good reason to stay in - Miliband & Clegg must be total retards with Cameron starting to bend a little.........but do I trust him :doubt:

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 Post subject: Re: HARRU HARRU HARRU!
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What cabby said with knobs on

the middle ground of voters have had enough of the EU

Camerons promise of a referendum AFTER they win the next election wont wash, Blair promised one too, did he supply?

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Nidge2 wrote:
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I think you might be in for a surprise Trotsk. :shock: Oh and I'm not saying that UKIP, will ever get into power, but they will affect party policy. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


Agreed.
It will drive the other parties even further to the right.
Now that might please Nidge and his EDL buddies but it won't do very much for the typical working class bloke who voted for these fekwits.

Oh I'm EDL now am I, make your fuckin mind up.


hey, im fecking SS remember!

typical scare tactics nige, demonize what you fear

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Be careful what you wish for guys and girls, this middle ground you allude to, is National Socialist Territory, and is related to the far right and fascism, irrespective of what Nigle Farage claims. This is why, at the moment, UKIP is trying to distance itself from the BNP, EDL, and National Front. UKIP, for all intents and purposes, is a far-right party with left-wing politics thrown in, in order to bring everyone on board who are disenfranchised with conservatism/liberalism. :-|

Oh and it's a clever ploy. :shock: The main political parties in this country should be worried. :shock: Farage is either extremely lucky or he is a lot smarter than he looks. :-|

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cabby john wrote:

A simple fact says that we have never in our entire history been in the National debt that we now have!

Another simple fact also tells us that many other nations are also in dire financial trouble!



Another simple (although inconvenient) fact. Neither the EU nor the working class caused this record national debt.

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Nidge2 wrote:
Oh I'm EDL now am I, make your fuckin mind up.


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UAF turned up to a Lee Rigby memorial in Sutton in Ashfield and screamed abuse all through the minutes silence. Among them was Broxtowe Labour Cllr Greg Marshall who is boasting about his role in this, and the ensuing scuffles on twitter. Is this the behaviour of an elected Councillor?


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A wreath-laying event in Sutton held in memory of murdered British soldier Lee Rigby passed off relatively peacefully, with police saying there were no arrests made.

The Mansfield and Ashfield Division of the English Defence League organised the memorial walk and two minute silence in Portland Square on Sunday to honour the memory of Drummer Rigby on the weekend of the first anniversary of his death.

A small number of EDL members attended the event and walked from the Market Tavern holding up flags, before laying a wreath in Portland Square and holding a two minute silence.


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First I've heard of that. I would've been on the front row if I'd known. 8)


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Loads of interesting views but from within the Labour Party i see Milibland being pushed to the LEFT { hes under severe attack which is being kept out of the press but he's getting a kicking .........remember theres a huge anti EEC feeling in the Labour Party.i spent many days in the knocker advising FOR VOTE TO COME OUT ....ONLY TO BE TOLD I WAS A STUPID LEFT WING IDIOT THE EEC IS GOOD ..............REALLY =D> =D>} far enough to satisify SKull Gus or John who knows :?:

John as usual yer wrong the National Debt was in real terms bigger in 1945 ......................the answer NATIONALIZATION ............BY ATLEES GOVT =D> =D>

Amused at all you lot predicting the result of the next election ..............but most are forgetting the Scottish referendum,,,,,,,,,,,,i aint making any predictions until thats settled.

As for Newark wanna heil the Vermin are defending a 14000 majority.................so who dives a friar tuck where UKIP come they aint winning it are they #-o IF THEY DO THATS CAMERON DEAD IN THE WATER :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

iTS LIKELY MILIBLAND WILL AGREE A REFERENDUM....................AND IN MY OPINION THE VOTE WILL BE TO STAY IN.

Also most of you ignoring the lefts successes in Ireland where Sinn Fein had brilliant results and in Greece where Syrizia ?? did very well =D> =D> many left party's are very anti EEC and in their country's it might not be too late exit it =D> =D> if only the Brits had lisyend to US ON THE LEFT YOU WOULDNT BE IN THIS SHYTTE FEKKING MORONS #-o #-o #-o #-o

ANYWAY ITS BEEN A GOOD RUCK ON HERE....................STILL WAITING FOR WANNA TO PUBLISH UKIP'S HACK AND PH POLICYS .........UNIFORMS ANYONE :badgrin: :badgrin:

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gusmac wrote:
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Oh I'm EDL now am I, make your fuckin mind up.


Nidge2 wrote:
UAF turned up to a Lee Rigby memorial in Sutton in Ashfield and screamed abuse all through the minutes silence. Among them was Broxtowe Labour Cllr Greg Marshall who is boasting about his role in this, and the ensuing scuffles on twitter. Is this the behaviour of an elected Councillor?


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A wreath-laying event in Sutton held in memory of murdered British soldier Lee Rigby passed off relatively peacefully, with police saying there were no arrests made.

The Mansfield and Ashfield Division of the English Defence League organised the memorial walk and two minute silence in Portland Square on Sunday to honour the memory of Drummer Rigby on the weekend of the first anniversary of his death.

A small number of EDL members attended the event and walked from the Market Tavern holding up flags, before laying a wreath in Portland Square and holding a two minute silence.


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First I've heard of that. I would've been on the front row if I'd known. 8)


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I dont know how accurate this report is ..........but the fekking EDL shytte must be confronted wherever they appear ...................however respecting one minutes silence before confronting these fekking N A Z I scum would seem reasonable to me.

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I think the point you are missing Trosk, is that Nigel Farage, has set himself up as the respectable face of National Socialism in this country. With organisations like the EDL, NF, BNP, etc. waiting in the wings to take care of the wetwork. :shock: Now UKIP, might fizzle out like those who have attempted this political position in the past, but it's not looking that way, and right-wing politics seem to be on the increase due to the economic realities of life, here and throughout Europe. :-|

Oh and Trosk, I think the Tories or Labour, for that matter, are struggling to come up with a cogent argument for anyone to take them seriously. :-| No one wants to hear about posh boy politics anymore, let alone, vote for the pri*ks. :evil:

May you live in interesting times.... :shock:

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Be careful what you wish for guys and girls, this middle ground you allude to, is National Socialist Territory, and is related to the far right and fascism, irrespective of what Nigle Farage claims. This is why, at the moment, UKIP is trying to distance itself from the BNP, EDL, and National Front. UKIP, for all intents and purposes, is a far-right party with left-wing politics thrown in, in order to bring everyone on board who are disenfranchised with conservatism/liberalism. :-|

Oh and it's a clever ploy. :shock: The main political parties in this country should be worried. :shock: Farage is either extremely lucky or he is a lot smarter than he looks. :-|



erm, if you add far right to far left dont you get the centre of the road?.....

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Be careful what you wish for guys and girls, this middle ground you allude to, is National Socialist Territory, and is related to the far right and fascism, irrespective of what Nigle Farage claims. This is why, at the moment, UKIP is trying to distance itself from the BNP, EDL, and National Front. UKIP, for all intents and purposes, is a far-right party with left-wing politics thrown in, in order to bring everyone on board who are disenfranchised with conservatism/liberalism. :-|

Oh and it's a clever ploy. :shock: The main political parties in this country should be worried. :shock: Farage is either extremely lucky or he is a lot smarter than he looks. :-|



erm, if you add far right to far left dont you get the centre of the road?.....


A right-wing political position coupled with left-wing politics, is National Socialism. UKIP, might not appear that far to the right, at the moment, but it's coming. :-|

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John as usual yer wrong the National Debt was in real terms bigger in 1945 ...


Honestly Trots I thought you were better than that.........War debt and the debt we now have are two different types of debt! A lot of war debt disappears/gets written off as favours are returned - the debt we have today has been totally amassed through incompetence........and it is not going to be written off. Do you honestly believe that it is possible to pay back debt that is/was in excess of 250% of GDP #-o

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