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 Post subject: They have a point
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 6:47 pm 
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If I were at that meeting with the EU President:
"Just so we can be clear, you are suggesting that we, the government of Great Britain owe you, the European Union the sum of 100 Billion Euros to settle a debt prior to exiting this relationship under article fifty.

You appear to have a very blinkered view of "Our relationship" especially considering that if it were not for our government, there would never have been a 'European Union' ..... Just a very large Federal Republic Germany.
Post which, ALL of Germany's debts were set to zero. Meanwhile, our country who's people both civil and military who risked their lives to fight for YOUR freedom and ours were left with nothing but rations for years. An economy in despair and a very uncertain future.

Great Britain paid a very heavy price both in human and economic sacrifice for a war we really didn't want. And you now have the nerve to suggest after we have always paid our EU annual commitment .... A sum of 100 Billion Euros?

We owe you absolutely nothing.
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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
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it's the frogs not the gerries after our money to prop up their ailing heavily subsidised economy :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 9:24 pm 
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The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:17 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.


I don't have a problem with law abiding people coming to this country to work and therefore pay taxes.i DO have a problem with a whole family of migrants coming here and claiming benefits. The programs I watched on TV when I saw a Romanian woman taking cash out of the ATM in Romania and smiling at the camera saying "thank you David Cameron" ( for the benefits paid to her by us!) was the last straw for me and many people in this country.


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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 11:05 pm 
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x-ray wrote:
captain cab wrote:
The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.


I don't have a problem with law abiding people coming to this country to work and therefore pay taxes.i DO have a problem with a whole family of migrants coming here and claiming benefits. The programs I watched on TV when I saw a Romanian woman taking cash out of the ATM in Romania and smiling at the camera saying "thank you David Cameron" ( for the benefits paid to her by us!) was the last straw for me and many people in this country.



Do you have a problem with the people born and bred in this country who do not pay their taxes or try to avoid paying the correct amount and claim tax credits?


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heathcote wrote:


Do you have a problem with the people born and bred in this country who do not pay their taxes or try to avoid paying the correct amount and claim tax credits?


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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:09 am 
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captain cab wrote:
The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.


Nobody in government is advocating taking away the working Migrants rights to work here nor their immediate dependents rights to stay here as well, all we seek is a simple reciprocal agreement and a guarantee that our working Expats living elsewhere in the EU are given the same rights to stay where the presently reside.

The Migrants here and our Expats there should realize that they live under the rules and laws of the host country they choose to live in, For example Poles here should not expect to live under the same EU rules and conditions as they enjoy here at present, all migrants should be treated in exactly the same way as other residents are in their host country are, there can not be special rules for EU citizens here just as there can not be special rules for UK citizens living in the EU.

Why the Bremoaners give the British government stick because they have not yet as yet promised the EU that its Migrants can stay in the UK is beyond me, the EU themselves are equally complicit by not promising British Migrants living in the EU the very same rights to remain in a post Brexit europe.

Indeed It's of the EU's own making this thorny issue EU/UK migrants because the EU point blank to Negotiate on any thing unless they get their Settlement cash agreed first....It's just as it always is with the EU, they'll do nowt to help anyone unless they get more money to finance their own Gravy Train first, typical of the bunch of greedy EU Barstewards that they are, it's all about them and all about them blaming everyone else for their own shortcomings.

We should leave immediately, no deal, no cash deal and accept in only who we want to work here and reject and eject those who want to come here as economic migrants and benefits passengers.

You have to be tough, but that does not mean we have to eject a single foreign worker from our shores, that's just how the world works, Working migrants are Important world wide but non working Migrants are just a bloody nuisance and a drain on our national finances, If such non working Migrants (Retirees etc) can prove they can support themselves financially without being a drain on their host nations benefits systems then that's fine, people can live where ever they want, but it's not fair to expect taxpayers from other countries no matter where in the world to pay the tab for non working migrants who just want to improve their lot by living where ever they choose at other peoples expense.


There..that's off me chest.


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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:32 am 
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heathcote wrote:
x-ray wrote:
captain cab wrote:
The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.


I don't have a problem with law abiding people coming to this country to work and therefore pay taxes.i DO have a problem with a whole family of migrants coming here and claiming benefits. The programs I watched on TV when I saw a Romanian woman taking cash out of the ATM in Romania and smiling at the camera saying "thank you David Cameron" ( for the benefits paid to her by us!) was the last straw for me and many people in this country.



Do you have a problem with the people born and bred in this country who do not pay their taxes or try to avoid paying the correct amount and claim tax credits?


Yes


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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:51 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
captain cab wrote:
The country will grind to a halt within 7 days of brexit - take away the migrants, the healthcare would stop, the old folks homes would close, factories would close, the entire service industry wouldn't function.

the entire country has lost leave of its senses, we're treating Europe as opponents as opposed to our next door neighbours

The EU wasn't responsible for an awful lot of the sh*t that's happened, be it Rochdale, 7/7 bombings, Rotherham or whatever else.


Nobody in government is advocating taking away the working Migrants rights to work here nor their immediate dependents rights to stay here as well, all we seek is a simple reciprocal agreement and a guarantee that our working Expats living elsewhere in the EU are given the same rights to stay where the presently reside.

The Migrants here and our Expats there should realize that they live under the rules and laws of the host country they choose to live in, For example Poles here should not expect to live under the same EU rules and conditions as they enjoy here at present, all migrants should be treated in exactly the same way as other residents are in their host country are, there can not be special rules for EU citizens here just as there can not be special rules for UK citizens living in the EU.

Why the Bremoaners give the British government stick because they have not yet as yet promised the EU that its Migrants can stay in the UK is beyond me, the EU themselves are equally complicit by not promising British Migrants living in the EU the very same rights to remain in a post Brexit europe.

Indeed It's of the EU's own making this thorny issue EU/UK migrants because the EU point blank to Negotiate on any thing unless they get their Settlement cash agreed first....It's just as it always is with the EU, they'll do nowt to help anyone unless they get more money to finance their own Gravy Train first, typical of the bunch of greedy EU Barstewards that they are, it's all about them and all about them blaming everyone else for their own shortcomings.

We should leave immediately, no deal, no cash deal and accept in only who we want to work here and reject and eject those who want to come here as economic migrants and benefits passengers.

You have to be tough, but that does not mean we have to eject a single foreign worker from our shores, that's just how the world works, Working migrants are Important world wide but non working Migrants are just a bloody nuisance and a drain on our national finances, If such non working Migrants (Retirees etc) can prove they can support themselves financially without being a drain on their host nations benefits systems then that's fine, people can live where ever they want, but it's not fair to expect taxpayers from other countries no matter where in the world to pay the tab for non working migrants who just want to improve their lot by living where ever they choose at other peoples expense.


There..that's off me chest.


Absolutely =D> =D> =D>, the immigrant issue is nothing more than ANOTHER scare tactic from the remoaners. They then in desperation, latch onto the Nhs and try to make out that they were going to/promised the WHOLE budget contribution to the EU of £350 million per week - what a bunch of morons. It is 48% of people (Remoaners) who are doing alright - screw the rest.

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
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Nobody in government is advocating taking away the working Migrants rights


and nobody in the government is advocating giving them rights.

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
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Nobody in government is advocating taking away the working Migrants rights


and nobody in the government is advocating giving them rights.


Why would you want to give them what they already have? It is obvious to a blind man that "rights" are not something that can be picked apart - particularly WHEN we leave.

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
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Why would you want to give them what they already have? It is obvious to a blind man that "rights" are not something that can be picked apart - particularly WHEN we leave.


The government should make it clear, so far they have said zero, they are playing on fear - all they have to say is those people already here will be entitled to the same rights as every person born here - job done.

It isn't difficult ffs

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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
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captain cab wrote:
cabby john wrote:

Why would you want to give them what they already have? It is obvious to a blind man that "rights" are not something that can be picked apart - particularly WHEN we leave.


The government should make it clear, so far they have said zero, they are playing on fear - all they have to say is those people already here will be entitled to the same rights as every person born here - job done.

It isn't difficult ffs


The government wanted to talk about migrant workers rights (both EU workers here and Brits working in the EU) before we even triggered article 50, Juncker and his mob vetoed it and said no negotiations until we triggered article 50. All the government wants to know now is what our migrant workers rights will be after Brexit.
What's so hard to understand about that ???


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 Post subject: Re: They have a point
PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:34 pm 
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x-ray wrote:

The government wanted to talk about migrant workers rights (both EU workers here and Brits working in the EU) before we even triggered article 50, Juncker and his mob vetoed it and said no negotiations until we triggered article 50. All the government wants to know now is what our migrant workers rights will be after Brexit.
What's so hard to understand about that ???


The government should just come out and give people living here the reassurance.

They haven't, they in my opinion are using people are bargaining chips - and as a country we should be truly ashamed, I find it difficult to understand how you can defend them - a little statement, maybe under 15 words?

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