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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:00 am 
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Looking as it does it's probably only fit for bashing people with anyway :D


never underestimate the scotch lack of taste :lol:

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do me a favour Sussex, at the very least go get a hack badge and drive for someone for a while, this is the only way I can see you will get a level opinion, I honestly believe you don't know whats what as regarding working as a rank car yet.


do you mean give his hack badge and plate back....then get them again and tell you all of this again?

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Well if he is a plate holder, which I doubt somehow, how on earth can he advocate wanting deregulation, or is it he has an interest in a PH firm and feels deregulation would benefit him?


Something is really not right here on this site with some of the replies I'm reading, this is the first time I've ever come across a single hackney owner who wants extra competition in what is already a severely depressed market already, I can go with the smarten the driver up, renew the car more often, know the knowledge parts of it, even small number issue in area's shown to need it, but the way it reads someone has ulterior motive here, and the fact I've only seen 7 users posting out of 1500 members says other's have been here and faced the same insane train of thought and left again.


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Something is really not right here on this site with some of the replies I'm reading,

The thing that is not right is you.

You can't quite work out why anyone would champion those in the trade not fortunate to have £40/50/70,000 in their back pockets.

The likes of you are more than happy to keep sucking the blood out of them.

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but the way it reads someone has ulterior motive here, and the fact I've only seen 7 users posting out of 1500 members says other's have been here and faced the same insane train of thought and left again.

Oh my goodness me we have been rumbled. ](*,)

If the likes of you didn't keep on restarting old threads on here this section would be the quietest on the site, in fact it has a fraction of TDO's posts.

Most on here are quite happy to leave their limit/delimit views as they are, and post limit/delimit articles from various councils as and when they happen.

If anything it's the likes of you that keep banging on about it, the likes of me are quite happy to let councils continue the delimit crusade all by themselves. :D

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Well if he is a plate holder, which I doubt somehow, how on earth can he advocate wanting deregulation, or is it he has an interest in a PH firm and feels deregulation would benefit him?
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Maybe he has principles?

Maybe he hasnt seen a decent argument why there should be limitation?

I dont know.....and I dont agree with him, but I respect his silly point of view :wink: and point out that the site is a good / excellent source of information, and most posters try to help people who have problems or questions.

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and point out that the site is a good / excellent source of information, and most posters try to help people who have problems or questions.

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That would be me. Lots of questions, but, as I say if you don't ask you won't learn. The only problem with this is absorbing the information I'm extremely forgetful :roll:

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Something is really not right here on this site with some of the replies I'm reading,

The thing that is not right is you.

You can't quite work out why anyone would champion those in the trade not fortunate to have £40/50/70,000 in their back pockets.

The likes of you are more than happy to keep sucking the blood out of them.


So I'm wrong for wanting to protect my livelyhood, even though it's proven that as soon as you deregulate it floods and everyone ends up on a 15 hours a day shift to take 50 quid?

I can't work out if you are a plate holder with a value like that that you'd want that to vanish overnight, quoting figures like that I'd say you have a Brighton lust going on.

It's not about sucking anyones blood, why do you keep championing this everyone should have for free routine.


I'm going to have to remain convinced you are a PH driver/owner who desperately wants to be a Hackney and feel that spouting off about us Capitalist [edited by admin] is the way to achieve that, because if you were anything other than what I think you just wouldn't have the opinion you do, and I don't think you are alone here either, this should really be Private Hire Online from what I see written, Taxi drivers drive Hackney's PHD's are not Taxi drivers, and therefore should not interfere with things that don't concern them, god knows we get enough of this locally with PH butting in where it ain't concerned, all PH is there to do is to satisfy the customer that chooses to call them for a ride, it has no juristiction over the actual Taxi trade, we are two different things and when they realise that things might improve.


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So I'm wrong for wanting to protect my livelyhood, even though it's proven that as soon as you deregulate it floods and everyone ends up on a 15 hours a day shift to take 50 quid?


You are entitled to your opinion just like everybody else is. :D

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Taxi drivers drive Hackney's PHD's are not Taxi drivers


Can I have a job description of both HC & PH please. Cos I no understand the difference apart from HC can be flagged :?

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So I'm wrong for wanting to protect my livelyhood, even though it's proven that as soon as you deregulate it floods and everyone ends up on a 15 hours a day shift to take 50 quid?


You are entitled to your opinion just like everybody else is. :D

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Can I have a job description of both HC & PH please. Cos I no understand the difference apart from HC can be flagged :?



Public hire

Private hire


Now to try to explain


A Taxi is a Hackney Carriage that serves the public at the roadside at the publics convenience.

A private hire is what it says, a definate agreement between one to give another a lift for cash reward.

Still sounds the same doesn't it? but a Hackney was around before a PHC was

So to try to explain it further, when a Private Hire company names itself, it's not allowed to use the name plus Taxi unless it has a permanent Hackney Carriage in it's fleet, so Colin's Taxis has to be known as Colin's Cabs/Cars etc.

It is confusing because essentially both do a similar job, but under true definition a Taxi can be hailed, a PHC cannot, hope that sort of explains it hun.


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Public hire

Private hire


Now to try to explain


A Taxi is a Hackney Carriage that serves the public at the roadside at the publics convenience.

A private hire is what it says, a definate agreement between one to give another a lift for cash reward.

Still sounds the same doesn't it? but a Hackney was around before a PHC was

So to try to explain it further, when a Private Hire company names itself, it's not allowed to use the name plus Taxi unless it has a permanent Hackney Carriage in it's fleet, so Colin's Taxis has to be known as Colin's Cabs/Cars etc.

It is confusing because essentially both do a similar job, but under true definition a Taxi can be hailed, a PHC cannot, hope that sort of explains it hun.


Dont take the p*ss.

Toots knows the difference.

Your description of private hire uses the word 'lift' as opposed to 'hire'.

Can you please point me to the part of the law that states a PH company cant call itself a taxi company?

Your final sentence.....a Hackney Carriage can be hailed......the word 'taxi' isnt mentioned I believe.

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It is confusing because essentially both do a similar job, but under true definition a Taxi can be hailed, a PHC cannot, hope that sort of explains it hun


Sorry I must have mislead you a little bit. I am more than aware of the legal differences and the differences between how PH and HC obtain work. What I wanted to know was if PH aren't taxi-ing people around what are they doing :?

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You'll have to read up CC, why would you call yourself Colin's Cars if you could call yourself Colin's Taxis.

I've nothing I can show you right now to back it up, but you'll have to take my word for it, along with the space for parking one I said earlier, seem's I ain't the dumb guinnea that ppl think I am, 23 yrs of it mate, 23 years, Driver,owner,plate holder,operator and nearly PH firm owner on a couple of occasions, I was a boy when I started, I was the youngest owner in town and I mixed with old heads who'd been doing the job since the last war, I might not get everything right, but I can assure you if a PH firm could call itself Taxi it would, why wouldn't you it's the prime description isn't it?


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So I'm wrong for wanting to protect my livelyhood, even though it's proven that as soon as you deregulate it floods and everyone ends up on a 15 hours a day shift to take 50 quid?

I don't criticise anyone for defending their corner, but do get the hump when folks criticise, without sound reasoning, mine.

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A woman walks into the Aberdeen benefits office, trailed by 15 kids...

'WOW,' the social worker exclaims, 'Are they ALL yours?

'Yeah they are all mine,' the flustered mother sighs, having heard that question a thousand times before. She says, 'Sit down Terry.' All the children rush to find seats.

'Well,' says the social worker, 'then you must be here to sign up. I'll need all your children's names.'

'This one's my oldest - he is Terry.'

'OK, and who's next?'

'Well, this one he is Terry, also.'

The social worker raises an eyebrow but continues. One by one, through the oldest four, all boys, all named Terry. Then she is introduced to the eldest girl, named Terri. 'All right,' says the caseworker. 'I'm seeing a pattern here. Are they ALL named Terri?'

Their Mother replied, 'Well, yes-it makes it easier. When it is time to get them out of bed and ready for school, I yell, 'Terry!' An'
when it's time for dinner, I just yell 'Terry!' an' they all come
runnin.' An' if I need to stop the kid who's running into the street, I just yell 'Terry' and all of them stop. It's the smartest idea I ever had, namin' them all Terry.'

The social worker thinks this over for a bit, then wrinkles her forehead and says tentatively, 'But what if you just want ONE kid to come, and not the whole bunch?'

'I call them by their surnames!'

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A woman walks into the Aberdeen benefits office, trailed by 15 kids...

'WOW,' the social worker exclaims, 'Are they ALL yours?

'Yeah they are all mine,' the flustered mother sighs, having heard that question a thousand times before. She says, 'Sit down Terry.' All the children rush to find seats.

'Well,' says the social worker, 'then you must be here to sign up. I'll need all your children's names.'

'This one's my oldest - he is Terry.'

'OK, and who's next?'

'Well, this one he is Terry, also.'

The social worker raises an eyebrow but continues. One by one, through the oldest four, all boys, all named Terry. Then she is introduced to the eldest girl, named Terri. 'All right,' says the caseworker. 'I'm seeing a pattern here. Are they ALL named Terri?'

Their Mother replied, 'Well, yes-it makes it easier. When it is time to get them out of bed and ready for school, I yell, 'Terry!' An'
when it's time for dinner, I just yell 'Terry!' an' they all come
runnin.' An' if I need to stop the kid who's running into the street, I just yell 'Terry' and all of them stop. It's the smartest idea I ever had, namin' them all Terry.'

The social worker thinks this over for a bit, then wrinkles her forehead and says tentatively, 'But what if you just want ONE kid to come, and not the whole bunch?'

'I call them by their surnames!'


Never mind T. Not like you to avoid discussion with pointless waffle............

.............BTW we don't have social workers in our benefit offices.
Poor cow sounds more like one of your drivers' wives..............
"My man works hard every night but there's bugger all left once he pays of that nice Mr T" "Without him we'd be nothing, God bless him everyone"

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