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so a PH driver who complains about too many PH cars on his radio circuit, now wants to see delimitation of HC's?

I am a little confused to say the least

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

It wasn`t the quantity I was complaining about it was the quality,the amount of lower quality cars on the PH circuit taking all the work annoys me.I would be just as happy if the council introduced an age limit on PH cars.
Believe it or not I actually take pride in my job and want to offer the best service I can.In my opinion I could offer a better service to the public with a brand new WAV.However I cannot afford to pay for a new vehicle as well as a PH radio settle.Why should I not have the choice I am doing virtually the same job.In fact I probably know my way around a damn sight better than most of the Hackney drivers round here.

My long lost twin.

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IDFIMH

I think you might find the matter will be taken out of their hands sooner than you think?

Regards

JD
JD YOU IMPLY THAT YOU ARE AWARE THAT THINGS ARE ABOUT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER PLEASE DO ENLIGHTEN US ALL.

An educated guess! Nothing else.

Regards

JD

surely the low quality of cars is either down to a lack of PH conditions or a lack of will from a greedy PH circuit owner?




So the answer is to do a damn sight better and delimit? thus perhaps lowering the income of the existing trade?

the service you offer at the moment is to the PH circuit and people who telephone the ph circuit.

If you cannot afford a WAV and operate on a PH circuit, what makes you think you could afford a WAV and operate as a HC in a market you already suggest are not doing as well as yourself?

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

There are also some low quality HC`s about too and that is more to do with the council

Correct but if I were given the freedom to choose I would choose HC and why shouldn`t I ??


Maybe I should have phrased that in a different way,the money I pay for the PH circuit is nearly as much as the cost of buying a new WAV,I choose not to pay both.If I wanted to then I could physically afford to buy one but doubt whether it would be financially profitable.
The point still remains I should have the freedom to choose.

We all know the most vocal opponents to de restriction are the multiple plate holders who never even see the seat of a cab.

Its exactly the same with PH, the council license them too.

If anything the PH circuit could use more control, but I tend to think of all the radio settles coming in an the radio circuit owner not giving a t*ss.



Freedom of choice is fine, however, your LA must have justified any decision it made to regulate numbers, if it hasnt the decision is challengable.





You keep mentioning this freedom to choose thing and you have me somewhat confused.

Your telling me you can physically afford to buy a WAV, but it wouldnt be financially profitable?

You want to choose between making a profit and not making a profit?

As a piece of general advice, try going for the definate profit, the alternative will lose you a house.



Now thats a statement.

Are you suggesting a multiple plate holder has never driven a cab?

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I agree but the radio circuit owner gets his money regardless.



The Justfication was made last time on the results of a flawed survey which was influenced by the HC drivers as previously mentioned.As for challenging the decision It is currently under review at the moment so maybe I won`t need to.


I mean`t it wouldn`t be financially profitable to buy a new WAV at the same time as paying a PH radio settle.The cost of the WAV could be met by the PH radio settle.


No I am suggesting that a multiple plate holder can only drive ONE cab,however there are some people here that own plates and cabs that don`t drive them at all.

As a PH driver I can choose to rent a car owned and plated by someone else OR I can plate and drive my own car.I have no problem with that as I have the choice.

In my experience circuit owners want their circuits as large as possible to bring in as much money as possible, regardless of the number of jobs they are taking.

But the possibility of a circuit owner having someform of control, such as an age policy is there, to blame the local authority is only partially right.



So I'm right then?

In what manner did the HC's influence the survey?



But then again, as the majority of WAV work is via the telephone surely buying a WAV on the basis that you are not going to have a radio and still serve the wheelchair bound is a flawed one?



So we will live in a one owner - one cab wonderland where everything in the garden is lovely will we?

In my experience the above scenario changes the basis on the service idea from one where we offer a service, to one where we offer a service when it suits.



You can with a HC

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

The circuit owner has no age policy,he gets the same money from a 15 year old car as he does from a brand new car.The council decides whether a car is suitable and issues the plates. Therefore I would argue that it rests wholly with the coucil policy.



As posted right at the start of this thread


The PH company I work for now has 350 cars and 100% of the work is taken on the telephone,out of the 350 cars there is 1 WAV which does not work at night.Anyone in a wheelchair at night coming to our office is sent to a HC rank.


If we were honest then I think we only really offer a service when it suits anyway.Market forces determine when people choose to offer a service.How many drivers do you know who go to work for a sense of civic responsibilty.?

Thats the whole point I am making - I cannot choose to plate and drive my own HC.If I want to drive a HC in this city then I have two choices at the moment,either pay through the nose for an existing plate or rent a vehicle from someone else.

I'm nipping off now for a few days, but will return to answer your post JDBubbles



The council set the standards, thats true, but theres nothing to stop the circuit owner doing similar.



A bit flawed?

It's either flawed or not.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

The circuit owner would lose money by imposing higher standards therefore it is not in his financial interest to do so.So whilst he may profess to have strict standards when it actually comes down to it "Money Talks"



It is Flawed !!!

Old thread but a perfect example of meddling in things that you know nothing about.

So you'd like to op a HC and you think if the council dereg's (which I think it has now) it will allow you to ditch the radio and go Indy in your new 23k vehicle?

How you gonna pay for it when another 500 ppl all think the same way and flood it?

When I was PH I used to hope for dereg, the 1st day I drove a HC I knew what an unworkable thing it would be if it happened, it's two different worlds and although I tried to have a neutral view for both sides it soon became obvious I'd been wasting my time for 11 years working in bent PH offices, having to wait for a bloke to finish his pint and in the middle of a narrow road because someone thought it a good idea to ring 20 mins before they actually wanted the car, so I can understand your desire to switch, right now I've one foot out of the game, the hour's, the money and the pay out just don't add up and factor in the unpleasent public both in and out of the car and it all looks like time to move on.

Sounds to me like I know a lot more about it than you do, tell me again how much you paid for your plate !!!!!