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Our Council is not going to deregulate, the licensing officer came out on Friday and said everything is staying the same, it's up to each individual Council what they do, if this RRO gets passed which it won't.

Andy, this OFT report will never get passed, the report itself is out of date. The report was done by a dozen or so office workers with clip boards who know nothing about the trade.

Nigel from my experience (via you), your licensing officer is a pillox.

If the law is changed via a RRO, then this will apply even to your manor, in the same way as any other law.

Please post this message on your front page so that the troops KNOW that there IS a consultation

So are we saying that a full act of parliament wont be needed, if the government choose to accept all three of the OFT main recommendation?

Could be that things change a lot sooner than most, including me, think.

Alex

Zat you Wharfy?

It can be done with a RRO, that much has been obvious since the publication of clause 1.147c in the Government's RRA Action Plan, surely.

Dusty

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:52 am ]
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Nigel from my experience (via you), your licensing officer is a pillox. If the law is changed via a RRO, then this will apply even to your manor, in the same way as any other law.

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:34 pm ]
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Nidge wrote: Our Council is not going to deregulate, the licensing officer came out on Friday and said everything is staying the same, it's up to each individual Council what they do, if this RRO gets passed which it won't. As Andy says, if the Govt pass and RRO then it won't be up to individual councils. But this in other regards this just demonstrates one fundamental weakness of the report - apart from de-restriction, most of the other recommendations are for best practice guidance and suchlike, of which there is already plenty, so what will change? The Dept of Transport recommended de-restriction in a circular years ago, and almost half of LAs still restrict. Dusty

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:41 pm ]
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Nidge wrote: Andy, this OFT report will never get passed, the report itself is out of date. The report was done by a dozen or so office workers with clip boards who know nothing about the trade. I partly agree Nidge, but the report involved one of the top economic consultancies in the land, who certainly demonstrate lots of economic theory (no doubt at huge cost to the taxpayer), but scant regard of the workings of the trade. But if they did, then I think the de-limitation recommendation would have been even more emphatic. But instead we have a rather anodyne, consumer-oriented report. Dusty

Author:	Nidge2 [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:54 pm ]
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Sussex Man wrote: Nigel from my experience (via you), your licensing officer is a pillox. If the law is changed via a RRO, then this will apply even to your manor, in the same way as any other law. Not the new one Andy.

Author:	Cgull [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:01 pm ]
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Our local t&g man has just told the lads it will never happen. Now the lads are pooing themsekves that it will. I wish he would keep his gob shut.

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Author:	Sussex [ Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:54 pm ]
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Author:	Alex [ Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:02 pm ]
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Have I missed something here? Alex

Author:	Taxi Driver Online [ Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:29 am ]
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The NPHA wrote: Please post this message on your front page so that the troops KNOW that there IS a consultation Sorted!

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:14 pm ]
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Re the difficulty of getting getting the legislation through, this point is highlighted in the Street Legal column in CTN: "The government will have to find time in a heavy legislative timetable before there will be any change in the law. We know that it has not been easy in the past for governments (of whatever complexion) to find time to change the somewhat arcane taxi laws." However, it's surprising that Ms Legal Eagle doesn't mention the Regulatory Reform Act, since the only recommendation made by the OFT that requires a change in primary legislation is the de-limitation proposal, and this can be done by way of a Regulatory Reform Order. As we've discussed at length before, de-limitation was proposed in the RRA action plan published by the Govt almost two years ago. The Action Plan document said: "Early in 2001 we brought in a powerful new measure to help simplify and reform burdensome legislation in the shape of the Regulatory Reform Act.... "In May, we reconfirmed out commitment to deregulating where possible, and to regulating only where necessary and with as light a touch as possible. We also undertook that we would be using this new streamlined parliamentary procedure to bring forward a wide-ranging programme of regulatory initiatives involving all the key government departments." So it seems that national de-limitation wouldn't require much parliamentary time. Ms Legal Eagle's point may be why the OFT didn't recommend root and branch reform, but it's probably irrelevant re de-limitation. Dusty

Author:	Alex [ Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:13 pm ]
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So are we saying that a full act of parliament wont be needed, if the government choose to accept all three of the OFT main recommendation? Could be that things change a lot sooner than most, including me, think. Alex

Author:	Guest [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:20 am ]
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Alex wrote: So are we saying that a full act of parliament wont be needed, if the government choose to accept all three of the OFT main recommendation? Could be that things change a lot sooner than most, including me, think. Alex the report reccomends change in legislation and that what it will need, you cannot overturn the transport act by orders. dusty is taking the [edited by admin]

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:51 am ]
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Zat you Wharfy? It can be done with a RRO, that much has been obvious since the publication of clause 1.147c in the Government's RRA Action Plan, surely. Dusty

Author:	Guest [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:16 am ]
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Dusty Bin wrote: Zat you Wharfy? It can be done with a RRO, that much has been obvious since the publication of clause 1.147c in the Government's RRA Action Plan, surely. Dusty well well well I ve bin busted cover gone kaput, section 16 of the Transport Act 1985 as approved by parlament need recinding by parlament cannot be done by order I do believe. if yo take a butchers at the RRA action plan it concedes this point. what is more once top up fees has mauled our tone he may not wish to take on the T&G who pay constituency expences of a bunch of his side comming up to a general election. rumours are rife that tone is to go in the spring, will Gordon want to upset T&g comming up to an election? its all to play for it aint over until the fat lady sings! meenwhile the big boys are wanting open access, and thier claws on stock for taxibus. Paddington Bill was at a meeting early last week, the sharks are a swimming around. this dusty will not go all our way. Wharfie

Author:	Guest [ Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:29 am ]
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oh and by the way the chairman of the meeting not knowing Bill was present so to speak read one of his poems and spoke about trade feelings regarding new licenses quoting the views of the silent majority!!!! hahahaehehehe Sussex the silent majority? he said one militant webb site had closed due to members bullied to toe the limit by numbers line, are you listening Mick? ehehshehahh how some people read some situations! yes the amunition we produce! Wharfie

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