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Author:  Sussex [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Richmondshire cabbies to fight delimitation.
Richmondshire cabbies prepare to mount legal action

TAXI drivers are considering taking legal action against a council over its decision to deregulate the industry. Members of the trade have already passed a vote of no confidence in two council officers after Richmondshire District Council’s licensing committee decided to remove the limit on the number of taxi plates issued.

It is currently capped at 65 and the decision was made to allow more registered taxis to attract new business and encourage taxi drivers to provide a better service in rural areas. But outraged members of Richmond Independent Drivers’ Association (RIDA) and the Taxi Drivers’ Association say deregulation will result in fewer taxis in rural areas and at quiet times of the week.

Members of the two organisation met at the Traveau Sports Club, in Catterick Garrison, where it was decided they would gather material to launch a legal action against the decision. Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months. All the new people who came in had other jobs and just put plates on their vehicles and came out at busy times. “The professional taxi drivers couldn’t make a living, so they left. So they ended up with virtually no taxis from Monday to Thursday. If this goes ahead, in 18 months we will all be out of a job.”

George Pearson, chairman of RIDA, told the meeting that local taxi drivers were not consulted over any of the recent changes affecting their industry. He said an independent Unmet Demand survey they had commissioned – which showed there wasn’t a demand for more taxis in rural areas – was not properly taken into consideration.

Head of regulatory services at Hambleton District Council, Maurice Cann, said the council had sent a letter to all taxi drivers inviting them to attend a meeting on April 5, which was attended by 17 drivers. He said: “It’s quite wrong to suggest there wasn’t any consultation.

In terms of the decision the council has made, it has considered the Unmet Demand survey and it was fully debated in public. Then a majority decision was made to deregulate the industry. This is in line with government advice and best practice.”
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:58 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months.

What a load of bollocks. ](*,)
Author:  Doom [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:52 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months.

What a load of bollocks. ](*,)



Do you think so Mark, I know it sounds like an exaggeration but you take a low income area and open it up and you have a flood in no time, 8000 Dubliner's could tell you how and how quick.

All the new people who came in had other jobs and just put plates on their vehicles and came out at busy times. “The professional taxi drivers couldn’t make a living, so they left. So they ended up with virtually no taxis from Monday to Thursday

Take note, this has happened before in the 70's.
Author:  charles007 [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:21 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months.

What a load of bollocks. ](*,)


why did they have a meeting in Fleetwood.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:07 am ]
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charles007 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months.

What a load of bollocks. ](*,)

why did they have a meeting in Fleetwood.

I don't know really, but if I was a guessing man, I would say that half of them wanted to go to the seaside and the other half wanted to throw themselves into the sea!!

:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:33 pm ]
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My point isn't about the numbers, although clearly they are made up by some buffoon, but the fact that this buffoon is saying when the council delimited 100s more PH got licensed.

Surely it would have been the reverse, unless all the normal scaremongering one hears on TDO is wrong.
Author:  tom2907 [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:59 pm ]
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Spot on this time Sussex, the Pr**k does suggest PH increased tenfold, as PH cannot be limited, whats the point.
Author:  Doom [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:51 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
My point isn't about the numbers, although clearly they are made up by some buffoon, but the fact that this buffoon is saying when the council delimited 100s more PH got licensed.

Surely it would have been the reverse, unless all the normal scaremongering one hears on TDO is wrong.



they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months

Is this what you mean and what Tom highlighted?

I think there is a typo error in there myself, should read....

they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 HACKS in less than 12 months
Author:  toots [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:20 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Grant Curphey, from the Independent Drivers’ Association, told the meeting: “In Fleetwood, near Blackpool, they deregulated their taxi industry and they went from having 105 private hire vehicles to more than 1,000 in less than 12 months.

What a load of bollocks. ](*,)


What is, that they went from 105 ph vehicles to more 1000 in less than 12 months or that they are comparing ph numbers with taxi numbers?
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:06 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
My point isn't about the numbers, although clearly they are made up by some buffoon, but the fact that this buffoon is saying when the council delimited 100s more PH got licensed.

Surely it would have been the reverse, unless all the normal scaremongering one hears on TDO is wrong.

The guy did get it completely wrong and really ain't got a clue.

PH are always de-limited by law, as you well know.

Unless he is getting confused and means back in 1976/77 when the LG(MP) Act was introduced.
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:06 pm ]
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Taxi drivers protest at deregulation plan



PARTS of Richmond ground to a halt yesterday as taxi drivers flooded the town centre with cars in protest at a decision to deregulate the industry.

More than 40 hackney cabs and private hire cars drove into the town at 4pm in an attempt to show what drivers believe will happen when the limit on the number of plates issued in the district is removed.

Taxi drivers said they will carry out further protests about the decision to deregulate, which they say has been made without proper consultation, unless the council listens to their concerns.

Yesterday’s action saw cars snaking down the market place and along The Channel, leading to tailbacks through Frenchgate and beyond.

Police officers persuaded the taxi drivers to move to the side of the road to allow other vehicles to pass to ease congestion and the taxis dispersed after about 25 minutes.

The number of registered hackney cabs in Richmondshire is currently capped at 65, but the council’s licensing committee voted to deregulate in an attempt to attract new business and encourage a better service in rural areas.

Members of Richmond Independent Drivers’ Association (RIDA) and the Taxi Drivers’ Association say deregulation will result in even less taxis in rural areas and have vowed to take the council to judicial review to get the decision overturned.

Richmondshire District Council said proper consultation had taken place and that the decision had been made in line with government advice.

George Pearson, chairman of RIDA, said: “We are sorry to cause inconvenience to the people of Richmond but it’s a very brief demonstration of what would happen if there was double the number of taxis, which is what will happen if deregulation goes ahead in April.

“Hackney cabs have been joined by private hire drivers who don’t want deregulation either, even though they would be the ones to benefit from it.”

Councillor John Blackie, leader of Richmondshire District Council, said: “There is no evidence that deregulation will lead to Richmond being flooded with cars – when Hambleton deregulated there was no change to the number of cars operating but it did mean that people could get a car when they need one.

“As for the protests, we shall just have to wait and see what happens.”

source: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/
Author:  tom2907 [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:22 pm ]
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I wonder why anybody is bothered at the moment and I mean the Council and the trade. April will be here in 5 months and we will see the Governments outline proposal's. The fight, lobbying etc will surely start in earnest then. Why create problems for each other until then.
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:31 pm ]
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tom2907 wrote:
Why create problems for each other until then.

Because they are thick, and can see no further than the end of their next job.

Change is going to happen, and I'm still not seeing any efforts made to gain momentum from those in the cab trade that it will effect.

All I currently see is the Manchester cab trade spending their money against someone with a big light by his office whose VAT number they can't find.

You really couldn't make it up. :sad:
Author:  grandad [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:47 pm ]
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captain cab wrote:
“Hackney cabs have been joined by private hire drivers who don’t want deregulation either, even though they would be the ones to benefit from it.”


How are PH going to benefit from deregulation apart from being able to change to Hackney? And why do they keep calling it deregulation when it is derestriction?
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:52 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
captain cab wrote:
“Hackney cabs have been joined by private hire drivers who don’t want deregulation either, even though they would be the ones to benefit from it.”


How are PH going to benefit from deregulation apart from being able to change to Hackney? And why do they keep calling it deregulation when it is de restriction?

I suspect the PH operators really don't want the big D.

Drivers having options is the last thing they want. :sad:
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