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can someone tell me if i will find it difficult to get a job from an operator in dundee due to me only having a drivers license for just over one year. will i have to work for someone whose car is insured for any driver

I should get your taxi license first, and if the council decide you are fit to drive, then someone will offer you a seat.

Even if your rental will be high to take account of the insurance costs.

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once you get your badge steve you will have no problem getting a owner to give you a job just make sure you get a good deal you dont say if you intend to go full time or part time full time its usually wed keep all the take thurs/fri/sat/sun its a fifty fifty split after fuel its a drivers market in dundee right now and you will get offered differnt deals dont accept any that dont offer you a night to yourself even if its your first week if you already have a job dont give it up right away you have picked a bad time to become a cabbie there are new cabs coming on every month some people getting both badge and plate at the same meeting this is having a big effect on earnings and looks like getting worse reading the taxi liasons statement at last thurs coucil meeting(the taxi trade were concerned at the lack of drivers availability and sought to meet with the relevant agencies to form a driver training programme with the outcome of producing more aplicants for taxi driver licenses) the reason there is a shortage of drivers is simply everyone wants their own plate i recall reading on this site that there was an average seven badges handed out in dundee per month now its always in double figures 21 this month many if not most of the new trained badge holders will put on their own plate which will in turn will also require a driver the only winners here will be the taxi office owners who funnily enough are also the taxi liason group
best of luck anyway and keep us posted as how you get on

So the amount of new drivers is having such an effect on earnings that they want more drivers to have an even bigger effect

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seems that way looks like all the new plates (me included) plus all future plates could be double shifted im surprised the head of the dta who is also on the taxi liason group went along with this just over a year ago he was peed off about the thought of anyone getting a plate now its a case of lets get those cabs running twenty four hours a day the trade in general which were not informed about this as usual are not happy even those who are looking for a driver know the implications of flooding the market with drivers the so called taxi liason group have not put a lot of thought into this probably because most of them do not drive there own cabs

Wav already 12 have handed back their cabs and I can guarantee,plenty more over the Summer.
It is a farce now in Dundee,and only a few""business men" have put on a cab and trying to get drivers.They will soon fall flat on their face,as the market cannot stand the ammount of vehicles Now trading.
You must find that realistically your takings have taken a downward trend and you must be doing more hours than a few months ago.
It will not happen,but the list should now be closed,before we are working for peanuts.
We required new blood to get rid of the old regime(who did not want to work),but hey we must have a better standard of living,and this is now being erroded.
Youngy still has a large number of plates still to be licensed,so again more slices from the cake.

there was seven new plates handed out last thurs (one to guy from glerothes?) its no longer change overs from private hire now mostly brand new ops i think this is what is hitting the trade i know a couple of ops who will be calling it a day at the end of the month due to having no drivers but starting a training programe for drivers wont help as most will become ops and want driver themselves i read in the minutes of the last council meeting that davie young has asked for a variation on the time limit to get his cabs on looking for suitable vehicles or something i noticed one of his new plates on a 51 plate mondeo which used to belong to the guy driving the cab sounds dodgy to me

Sounds like a bit of the Mansfield syndrome here - complaining about new plates but regretting that current plates will be leaving.

That sounds to me like the system working - in any job people will come and go, and if you have over 500 plates in Dundee then a handful coming and going every month doesn't sound a huge deal.

It's when the incumebent plates remain static and the newcomers can't license a vehicle tha the problems start as far as I'm concerned.

As for people working more hours if takings are dropping, that's just a viscous circle since more hours worked will just further reduce takings.

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Dundee City has a population of 140,000,cabs now plying for trade,PH and HC,is now over 700,come on you do not require to be a rocket scientist to see this does not equate.
The trade is now a shambles in this neck of the woods and the only way to get every one on an even keel,is all wheelchair accessible vehicles,this would be the fairest way.
Tongue in cheek,only TX11 allowed(the most expensive one)so that I can open a garage and make plenty bucks.

As I think I said a few months ago the number badges granted in Dundee hasn't really changed since things were opened up, so the main difference to me seems that its not see easy for idle owners to have there taxis on the road every hour of the night and day.

I'm not sure if this new course or whatever it is is meant to get more drivers in the trade or not, but if its just to get more drivers then things will get even slower than you claim it is. Lest fact it, they could not make it any easier to get a badge in Dundee surely.

When the numbers were capped, why did Teles Handys Tays and 505050 have no problem taking on PH cars, which a lot of the taxi trade didn't like.

And why have they had no problem taking on the new wheelchair cabs that have been plated?

Answer: £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

You may think its a shambles now, but its a lot better than it was before.

I would agree with one thing though: the trade needs a level playing field.

I think their giving existing saloon ops till 2020 to convert?

What a laugh, thats 25 years they have had since the issue was first proposed, yet the new plates have to run acceessibles from the kick off.

Any word what Davy Young will be doing with all the saloon plates, he will either have to dump them or dump the TX2's.

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Aye, and some can still run a N-plate Astra.

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FAIR COMMENT.

He is putting the plates on any vehicle that moves,some of his private hire operators ,have his yellow plates on their vehicles now.
How he is getting away with this,beats me,as this means he is hiring the plates out,surely.

he gets away with it because at the end of the day its down to convincing the council that you as plate holder are still in the day to day running of the vehicle nobody is in any doubt davie runs dundee private hire all the ex private hire cars are now registerd as dundee private hire property
so it would be hard to prove otherwise on the other hand some of the old hired plates when questioned didnt even know what kind of car their plate was on maybe he will hand over his own name for plate hiring at the next council meeting i remember him handing over a list of the old ones at one council meeting talking about council meeting anybody from dundee
who want to check the real facts(not many) follow this link http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/
then click on plans & performance then current agendas and reports if you select thurs 12 licensing you will get the minutes of the last meeting if you click search council minutes you will be abe to check past meetings
dundee is still in the situation of most cabbies listening to the gossip on the ranks rather than checking things for themselves

So are you saying that these vehicles are owned by the drivers?

However, when Coutts and Alexander had their yellow plates with 203020, didn't they get by the plate hiring rules just by drawing up an agreement leasing the vehicles to Messrs Coutts and Alexander although 203020 effectively owned the vehicles?

So couldn't they just do that in reverse now. This would mean that he vehicles owned by the drivers could be leased to 203020 and thus they could be legitimately plated on 203020 plates?

Apart from 203020, how many hired plates would you say there are compared to before WAV plates were uncapped?

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