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In Nottingham, the plates are removed before the test and you only get them back when the car has passed.


In order to remove the plate under revocation or expiry, the council has to comply with section 60 of the 1976 Act, thus giving rise to the licence holder's right to continue working under section 77.

. Under section 58 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, the plate may only be returned to the council (by written notice, after which the licence holder has seven days from the service of the notice in which to do this) for three reasons:- the revocation of the licence, the expiry of the licence, or the suspension of the licence under a section 68 notice of mechanical fault on the vehicle or its meter.

Section 45 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1947 places as much importance on the plate displayed on the hackney carriage vehicle as on the paper licence issued for that vehicle.


In order to remove the plate under revocation or expiry, the council has to comply with section 60 of the 1976 Act, thus giving rise to the licence holder's right to continue working under section 77.

C.C saidThe plates were returned when the council realised, via the ombudsman, that the owner should have been given the right to appeal and he should have been allowed to continue to trade subject to the appeal.
This was a report on an Investigation into Complaint No 99/C/2407 against Doncaster Metropolitan Borough Council March 2000.


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Our LA have told us that this is why the Plate is on the outside of the vehicle because it remains their property and they can remove it at any time. We used to put plates in the back window for a short time but this is now a no no because they cannot gain access to it there.

One of our chaps was actually interviewed under PACE and received an official caution for having his plate attached to the inside of the rear window.

In our manor they use the PACE interview as an official fishing trip. There is a way round it, but you have to be quick & have your wits about you.

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I hope you're council is providing a lawyer for the driver... at their expense... read the rules and regulations regarding.. PACE....

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Our LA have told us that this is why the Plate is on the outside of the vehicle because it remains their property and they can remove it at any time. We used to put plates in the back window for a short time but this is now a no no because they cannot gain access to it there.

One of our chaps was actually interviewed under PACE and received an official caution for having his plate attached to the inside of the rear window.

In our manor they use the PACE interview as an official fishing trip. There is a way round it, but you have to be quick & have your wits about you.

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I hope you're council is providing a lawyer for the driver... at their expense... read the rules and regulations regarding.. PACE....

Now that is a good point, I'd forgotten about that.

In fact it is a very, very good point indeed.

But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Our LA have told us that this is why the Plate is on the outside of the vehicle because it remains their property and they can remove it at any time. We used to put plates in the back window for a short time but this is now a no no because they cannot gain access to it there.

One of our chaps was actually interviewed under PACE and received an official caution for having his plate attached to the inside of the rear window.

In our manor they use the PACE interview as an official fishing trip. There is a way round it, but you have to be quick & have your wits about you.

:wink: :wink: :wink:

I hope you're council is providing a lawyer for the driver... at their expense... read the rules and regulations regarding.. PACE....

Now that is a good point, I'd forgotten about that.

In fact it is a very, very good point indeed.

But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.
Yes... just keep saying no comment... I do not remember the occasion

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But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.


Explain the way around.

PACE is the Police and Criminal Evicence act......it has somthing called procedure and the interviewer should tell the interviewee their rights and provide the PACE act for the interviewee to read shouldnt they?

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But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.

Explain the way around.

PACE is the Police and Criminal Evicence act......it has somthing called procedure and the interviewer should tell the interviewee their rights and provide the PACE act for the interviewee to read shouldnt they?

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If you provide a full, complete written statement of the event which you are being questioned about at the beginning of the interview & refer any questions to the statement, you may state that you have nothing further to add.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.

Explain the way around.

PACE is the Police and Criminal Evicence act......it has somthing called procedure and the interviewer should tell the interviewee their rights and provide the PACE act for the interviewee to read shouldnt they?

CC

If you provide a full, complete written statement of the event which you are being questioned about at the beginning of the interview & refer any questions to the statement, you may state that you have nothing further to add.


Yes, but how many times does that happen to the daft cab driver?

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captain cab wrote:
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captain cab wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
But as I said there is a way round PACE, but you have to be quick.

Explain the way around.

PACE is the Police and Criminal Evicence act......it has somthing called procedure and the interviewer should tell the interviewee their rights and provide the PACE act for the interviewee to read shouldnt they?

CC

If you provide a full, complete written statement of the event which you are being questioned about at the beginning of the interview & refer any questions to the statement, you may state that you have nothing further to add.

Yes, but how many times does that happen to the daft cab driver?

CC

I once had an incident with a passenger, who I reported to the police; she was drunk, accused me of going the long way & tried to steal my driver badge. A police car just happened to be passing & they went to speak to her in the chip shop she had disappeared into.

The passenger complained about me by phone to the licensing enforcement officer. The licensing officer then harrassed the passenger for seven weeks to make a written statement, finally obtaining the statement.

By the time I was called in, I produced a hand written statement which I had scribbed contemporaneously & a typed statement, because no one can read my writing. I referred the interviewers to my statement & refused to answer any further, referring them constantly to my statement.

The best bit was when I asked them whether they had driven the three possible routes I could have taken on the journey to ascertain the different mileages & they replied that they had not.

Classic!!

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If I was to give anyone any advice on what to say and do during a PACE investigation, it is to say and do f*** all.

Nuff said. :wink:

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Sussex is right. If interviewed under PACE you have the right to silence. Say nothing to give your solicitor plenty of options AND you get a copy of the evidence against you before you need to respond. It just takes a little bottle.


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I hope you're council is providing a lawyer for the driver... at their expense... read the rules and regulations regarding.. PACE


where does it state that?


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I hope you're council is providing a lawyer for the driver... at their expense... read the rules and regulations regarding.. PACE


where does it state that?
It doesn't actually.. when you throw it at the council's legal team, it keeps them busy for a month or two .. tell they find out You are wrong.... and then makes them feel clever.... :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:42 am 
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Hi guys.

I have a PH vehicle which failed a routine test. Are the LA legally allowed to remove the plates immediately once they have served a suspension notice? They've advised me they will return the plate to me immediately once I have had the fault with the vehicle repaired.

Thanks.


They do it round here if it's failed a spot check. The plate is then returned when the faults have been fixed.


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get the car fixed


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If you put the car in for test early (say with two weeks left) and it fails they keep your plate, but if you photocopy and laminate a new plate you can still work. To stop you working they have to issue a written notice of suspension, issued by an officer who authority in writing to issue such notice. Until last year cabs in Manchester had run for years like that. When the council found out they changed the rules and hushed everything up. They did not want to look like Pratts.


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