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Stating the obvious, but presumably Unite's gripe was on behalf of the Liverpool HC trade, but without thinking through the possible ramifications, which you clearly don't like, and presumably they wouldn't either. But, to clarify, the ramifications are.....?


Oh well I'll answer my own question then.

I thought the T&G's Cab Trade News had gone the same way as the Militant newspaper, but lo and behold it's even online now :shock:

Found this one, headlined UNITE WINS SELECT COMMITTEE ENQUIRY, with the Liverpool HC section of Unite photographed with the committee chairma-er,-person.

Who'd have thunk it.

Wasn't too impressed by the text though. It says: "UNITE argues that private hire should be subject to the same laws that govern the UK taxi industry, that being; Private hire should only be able to take a booking from within their own licensing area."

Thus clearly some things never change. :roll:

Didn't bother reading beyond that.


They must have been at a different meeting to the one I watched.

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They must have been at a different meeting to the one I watched.

Usually it's a different planet. :sad:

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The 1847 act does not allow any four wheeled vehicle to park in the street if it displays anything on their vehicle that looks like a plate, they can be done for having no license no plate etc, to ply for hire in the district they are in they must have that districts plate, so i reckon they cannot park anywhere, if it is not their own licensing authority, same applies to p/hire.
my interpretation is vague but that is what i understand it to say so why aren't these people being done,if you know a better interpretation please let me know, these taxis are now in TELFORD with Shrewsbury Plates.
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The 1847 act does not allow any four wheeled vehicle to park in the street if it displays anything on their vehicle that looks like a plate, they can be done for having no license no plate etc, to ply for hire in the district they are in they must have that districts plate, so i reckon they cannot park anywhere, if it is not their own licensing authority, same applies to p/hire.
my interpretation is vague but that is what i understand it to say so why aren't these people being done,if you know a better interpretation please let me know, these taxis are now in TELFORD with Shrewsbury Plates.
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Oh if that was so.

Alas it is not. :sad:

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If my memory serves me well, which it does, most of the time, back in the eighties/early nineties, there was an out of town hire car droping off at Manchester Airport. A local LO pulled the driver for not wearing his badge. The driver claimed the LO had no juristriction, but the case was proven.

Vague, I know, but I'm sure I read this in PHM.

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The 1847 act does not allow any four wheeled vehicle to park in the street if it displays anything on their vehicle that looks like a plate, they can be done for having no license no plate etc, to ply for hire in the district they are in they must have that districts plate, so i reckon they cannot park anywhere, if it is not their own licensing authority, same applies to p/hire.
my interpretation is vague but that is what i understand it to say so why aren't these people being done,if you know a better interpretation please let me know, these taxis are now in TELFORD with Shrewsbury Plates.
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http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Adm ... /2369.html

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Slightly off subject, but i would like to point out to solo.cab. The cabs you see in Telford with Shropshire Plates on are not from Shrewsbury, they are plated remotely in Bridgnorth and North Shropshire zones.
There intention is to circumnavigate the operators licence fee in Telford and the wav regulations in Shrewsbury.
Shrewsbury now has loads of them, roof lights lit and plying for hire.
We dont want them in Shrewsbury any more than you want them in Telford but as usual No Enforcement[/quote]
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solo.cab wrote:
The 1847 act does not allow any four wheeled vehicle to park in the street if it displays anything on their vehicle that looks like a plate, they can be done for having no license no plate etc, to ply for hire in the district they are in they must have that districts plate, so i reckon they cannot park anywhere, if it is not their own licensing authority, same applies to p/hire.
my interpretation is vague but that is what i understand it to say so why aren't these people being done,if you know a better interpretation please let me know, these taxis are now in TELFORD with Shrewsbury Plates.
Mal

That is a quite interesting interpretation of the 1847 Act and reasonably accurately stated.

I wonder?

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Wasn't too impressed by the text though. It says: "UNITE argues that private hire should be subject to the same laws that govern the UK taxi industry, that being; Private hire should only be able to take a booking from within their own licensing area."


Liverpool HCs have been bleating about this for years now. It appears they are quite happy for us all to take people into Liverpool but they rather we didn't go back to collect them, thus, leaving them to perform their wonderful talent to cherry pick. I guess it's never entered their heads that the option to make one large Merseyside Unitary Council could well be an option to solve the problem. One could also argue that the booking was taken within the drivers licensed area

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Liverpool HCs have been bleating about this for years now. It appears they are quite happy for us all to take people into Liverpool but they rather we didn't go back to collect them, thus, leaving them to perform their wonderful talent to cherry pick.

Which sums up sections of the trade to a tee.

Sad thing is they are so f***ing thick that they can't see it. :sad:

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Liverpool HCs have been bleating about this for years now. It appears they are quite happy for us all to take people into Liverpool but they rather we didn't go back to collect them, thus, leaving them to perform their wonderful talent to cherry pick.

I'd never do that; don't like cherries!!

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Caledonian Cabbie wrote:
UNITE argues that private hire should be subject to the same laws that govern the UK taxi industry, that being; Private hire should only be able to take a booking from within their own licensing area.


Maybe the evidence on the Berwick situation heard by the committee means that Unite have worked out the legal position by now.

Maybe the Liverpool HCs will start working PH circuits in Sefton. They could even work with Delta :lol:
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Liverpool ,Sefton and the rest, have been working the system for least 10 years


And the system was so successful they brought in the Transport Select Committee :lol:

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