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S6 Conversion specialist.

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:48 am

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TDO wrote:

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TDO, i think your just trying to wind me up ?

Well perhaps you could answer the questions I put to you earlier about rapists?

Would you agree that a rapist could be legally driving a limo under the self-drive contrivance?

Possible , but then again a CRB check does,nt even stop them , does it ?

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:49 am

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Do limo drivers really need to be CRB checked .

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:51 am

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I never said the self drive scheme was perfect ,however it is legal.

So you'd agree that it breaches the spirit of the law then, if not the letter?[/quote]

spirit of the law ???????

Really TDO now we,re getting into the realms of fantasy!

Ive never heard of anyone being convicted of breaking the spirit of the law :lol:

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:52 am

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MR T wrote:

TDO.. shouldn't you be saying convicted rapist

I stand corrected, but I'm sure Mr S6 Conversion specialist. knew what I meant

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:53 am

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:

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So you'd agree that it breaches the spirit of the law then, if not the letter?

spirit of the law ???????

Really TDO now we,re getting into the realms of fantasy!

Ive never heard of anyone being convicted of breaking the spirit of the law :lol:

I said 'breaches', not 'breaks'.

So what's the spirit behind bus, taxi and PH legislation then?

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:54 am

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MR T wrote:

Do limo drivers really need to be CRB checked .

Ofcourse they do!

But should,nt we examine the validity of the CRB system , to quote a phrase , in spirit its a good idea in practice unless someone has actually been convicted of an offence then it wont show and if they commit and offence after the check nothing would show until the next CRB check, and who has access to CRB data ????? Very few because the data protection act prevents most!

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:55 am

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The last time that I got locked up, a police officer was saying something about spirits and law :lol:

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:55 am

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:

Why though John?

It has been to court many times and if the system is operated correctly ie; chauffeur not supplied with the vehicle and hired separately by the customer from a legitimate agency then no laws are broken.

There are without doubt ops outhere who think they can get away without adhereing to the law , they will get what they deserve, 16 seater limos are very distinctive and difficult to hide so it wont take long to catch them.

Because the independent element associated with self drive hire is absent.

You must be referring to the magistrates court because if any case would have gone before the higher court, I would know about it.

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:57 am

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There is no such thing as "the spirit of the law " nowadays its all simply political control.

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:59 am

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Because the independent element associated with self drive hire is absent.

Humour me John and clarify this sentance for me please.

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:

There is no such thing as "the spirit of the law " nowadays its all simply political control.

I'm beginning to think you don't know the difference between the spirit of the law and the letter of it Mr S6 Conversion specialist., which perhaps explains why you don't understand the spirit of the points being made against the self-drive contrivance :-k

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:

MR T wrote:

Do limo drivers really need to be CRB checked .

Ofcourse they do!

Do they, under the self-drive scheme?

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:04 am

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:

But should,nt we examine the validity of the CRB system , to quote a phrase , in spirit its a good idea in practice unless someone has actually been convicted of an offence then it wont show and if they commit and offence after the check nothing would show until the next CRB check, and who has access to CRB data ????? Very few because the data protection act prevents most!

So you're saying dump a system that stops rapists and murderers driving cabs because some get through and/or commit these offences after they've been checked?

And if someone with a badge raped or murdered would it really be the case that nothing would happen until the next CRB check? :roll:

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:15 am

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You said they could drive limos , i merely pointed out that they could also drive taxis etc, if they committed the offence after being badged or not they would get caught , a badge does,nt stop that.

Why are we arguing hypothetical scenarios?

CRB makes the best out of a bad system but its not perfect by a long way and never will be because the data protection act stands in its way.

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:16 am

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CRB makes the best out of a bad system but its not perfect by a long way and never will be because the data protection act stands in its way.[/quote]

And the EU..

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