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Ah ha! lol Where have I said I represent any group? And where have I said I represent anyone?



And why should you be concerned? What exactly do you have to do with TDO?



I don't think you have the right to poke your nose into other peoples personal affairs do you? And if you do then perhaps you can tell them why?



I don't need to use TDO as a credibility tool but it is comforting to know that you think we are a credible website.



There are many ways of helping people but offering information and advice is a good beginning.



This one hasn't sunk in yet but if someone asks TDO's help and it means us making inquiries then inquiries is what we will make, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks and regardless of which individual at TDO is burdened with the task?



I suppose it depends on how you interpret the word represent? You haven't defined the meaning, I certainly haven't used the word represent because what I do is not representation, it is merely resolving situations and TDO has resolved many a personal situation in the past and I am sure it will resolve many more in the future. I suppose you don't like TDO resolving personal matters at the request of some individuals?



Why do I need to look up the word accountability? Any assistance I and TDO gives is for free, we don't represent anyone and are therefore not accountable to anyone. If an individual asks our assistance then we shall give it and for free but we are not accountable to that individual because we owe them no obligation. Therefore perhaps you can tell me who TDO should be accountable too?




So we have moved on from me and TDO helping individuals resolve their problems to me and TDO affecting change and being accountable to those who that change might affect?

The problem with that argument is that I or TDO have never tried to affect change, positive or otherwise. Therefore your statement is not only misleading it is also untrue.

What other people do is of no concern of mine as long as they don't infringe on my rights or say they represent me. I or TDO do not represent anyone and nor do we pretend to.



Well to be quite honest I don't really care what anyone thinks about my ideals because my record speaks for itself. If I can help someone and if that means me contacting the "prime minister" or the head cook and bottle washer then I will, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks about my actions.



I wonder what the public have to do with me and TDO assisting individuals resolve personal matters?

I have a very good idea, why don't you stick to representing those people who elected you and leave us to assist those persons who ask for our help? I don't really think they need any input from individuals such as yourself.

Regards

JD

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You represent the people who ask for your help ..................



I contribute to it, I am part of its success, as is every other contributer................ I, like most others do not percieve myself to be beyond reproach.



Did you have the right to make accusations about people in other areas ............. did you not "poke your nose" into matters arising in Carlisle SOLELY because it gave you an opportunity to have a go at the NTA generally and Mr Wayne Casey personally ....................



TDO was a creditable website when it was created ................ and then for some years before you became involved in it. Please remember that before I was banned I was the fourth member and the first member not associated with the site directly.



and you think that activity is not representing someone ..................



again ................ you don't think that's representing someone.



Therefore you should be sure that you make everyone aware that should you give them the wrong advice that costs them thousands of pounds they have no recourse against either you or this site. Other people who offer the same representation ( sorry offer help) particularly those from the NTA, T&G or the good old GMB are definatly accountable.

Of course the above doesn't apply of the advice is confined to the pages of this site.



So are you now saying that you didn't get involved in a situation in Carlisle



Spoken like a true head of a representative body



Ask those disabled people of Carlisle who are now struggling to get WAV's ................. I passed through the other day and was surprised to see so many more up for sale.



Individuals such as myself ............... how disresectful ............. I have spent the past 10 years helping people in the trade, often to the detriment of my own family.

You are obviously not as "up to date" as a news editor should be .......................... or you would have known about my current status with regard the trade.

B. Lucky

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Wrong, I represent no one, I only give advice, whether it be good, bad or indifferent? I don't consider clarifying certain points with certain individuals as being a representative but if I was ever asked to speak on behalf of an individual then that would be between me and them and no one else.



You are not a part of the success of TDO.

You have the bare faced cheek to sit there and say you are a part of TDO's success when in the past you and your cronies have conspired to discredit TDO to the best of your ability? I'm wondering if your claim to TDO's success was due to your participation either, before, during or after you were banned?

Maybe we should ban you again and bring you down to earth?

I suppose your logic dictates that by you posting on other forums is a contributory factor to their success? So what happened to the GMB forum you joined? and what happened to the Cabby forum you posted on? And what about Mr Tony Mites forum? Every single one a failure? So it would seem failure follows you around?

I don't think anyone who posts on TDO considers themselves to be a part of the running of TDO, except you? Those who post on TDO are afforded a medium where they can read the latest news regarding the Taxi trade, exchange views and opinions on the taxi trade and where possible get advice and above all else avail themselves of every legal document appertaining to the Taxi trade both north and south of the border.

Now let me tell you something. There are three people who run TDO thats Dusty, Alex and me and if you have a problem with that then, tuff luck.

In the past you've insinuated that because you are allowed to contribute to TDO as a poster it gives you some sort of right to say you are a part of TDO? That is not the case, TDO will function with or without your contribution and what we at TDO do or say on behalf of TDO, has nothing whatsoever to do with you. Is that clear?

So in future, If I or anyone else contacts anyone on behalf of TDO, no matter who it may be, don't poke your nose into TDO business because it is not welcome.

Do I make myself clear?

Regards

JD

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I don't know what you mean about having the right to make accusations about people in other areas because your clarity is a little less than opaque. However seeing as you brought up the matters arising in Carlisle I am more than happy to address that question.

Here we have a man known as Gateshead Angel who supported an illegal condition in Carlisle knowing full well that it was illegal. How did he know it was illegal? Because it was fully explained to him on TDO by me and several others including Wayne Casey of the NTA.

We have to ask ourselves why a man who says he represents Taxi drivers turns a blind eye to an illegal condition in a neighbouring authority which has the impact of discriminating against the majority of Taxi drivers in that area?

The simple answer is that he didn't want to rock the boat but the reason why, is less than plausible, Mr Angels reasoning is that his bossom buddy Mr Wayne Casey was part of the vested interests that wanted the status quo to remain and therefore he agreed with everything Mr Casey said.

Some might think that Mr Angel is more a mouse than a man because he didn't have the balls to stick up for the basic rights of the majority of the Carlisle Taxi trade who were illegally excluded from the busiest taxi rank in town, even though he new the condition was illegal?

Now if you want a guy like that to represent you then you are welcome to him. I prefer representation to come from someone who is prepared to tell it how it is and without fear or favour. Our friend Mr Angel does not remotely fit into that category, especially based on his stance with respect to the Carlisle station taxi rank.

Now if Mr Angel wants to talk about Carlisle and my involvement in getting the illegal condition removed, then I shall be more than happy to accommodate him.

Perhaps we can start with Mr Angels support for the Carlisle taxi owners association who since 2004 new the condition was illegal and so did he.

Nothing would please me more than to dissect the injustice of this illegal condition which Mr Angel still supports by his stupid inference that wheelchair passengers are being disadvantaged.

Regards

JD

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I think Mr Angel does me a disservice by stating I do not appreciate his service to the Taxi trade. I am on record as saying that not only he but also everyone who offers their time and commitment to the taxi trade should be applauded for their efforts. That includes Mr Wayne Casey, Mr Trevor Jones, and everyone else who I haven't mentioned including those persons who subscribe to TDO and who are representatives but wish to remain anonymous?

Mr Angel gives a great deal of his time to the Taxi trade in what he thinks is in the best interest of the Taxi trade in his own area. The problem is, that we have all seen such sentiments correctly applied to a localised area but the acid test is the independence of thought? Mr Angel has demonstrated that his principles can be hijacked regardless of the lawfulness of the situation. I'm afraid as far as I'm concerned that such actions are a bridge too far and I hope other subscribers echo my sentiments.

Regards

JD

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Maybe a raw nerve has been struck.

Again I'm mis-quoted ............. and again there is a failure to realise that the contributers of any forum based website are the reason for the success or failure of it.

The conditions in Carlisle are implimented by Carlisle City Council ............. no-one else ............. and if a condition is found to be illegal then the only people responsible are the local authority that impliment it.

I should of course point out that you insist that Mr Casey was part of the vested interest ............. but you fail to accept or acknowledge that Mr Casey's business included WAV's and saloons and so part of his business was excluded from the same rank you state he was trying to preserve ............ indeed at one point you claimed (and titled the thread) that the illegal rank was in fact Mr Casey's.

As far as your claims that I have tried to discredit TDO ............. thats also not true.
This all started when I applauded the "Myth and Reality" document but stated that however well written it was it was still bias to the viewpoint of the author ................ I also remember stating that the author of the document should be identified to add credibility.
The reason I was banned was because those involved in this site claimed that the "Myth and Reality" document had not been sent to council's who were retaining restrictions ........................ a fact which was denied strongly by the admin of TDO, at that time.
I had included in that argument that if the admin of TDO were going to be contacting local authorities then they should make themselves known or make their actions known.

The fact remains that it has been conceeded that "Myth and Reality" was distributed, as had been claimed.


It is also a fact that your hatred of me is obvious ............. is this just because I have the balls to stand up for what I believe in without fearing reprisals from people without courage for their own convictions.

B. Lucky

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B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

aye aye bud

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khTntOxX-k

live long and prosper

CC

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Lighten up now ladies !



You know the both of you have better things to do but argue with one another !

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What happened to having a laugh ?

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Well, for the last five minutes at least.



As I've said umpteen times before, why pick out M&R when everything else is biased as well?

Can you point me to something that isn't?

It's patently obvious to anyone, even before they get beyond the title page, that M&R comes from a certain viewwpoint, so why do you have to keep on pointing this out, other than to try to undermine it?

And, as I've also said umpteen times before, the word 'bias' is inappropriate (and I'm not just referring to your grammatically incorrect usage), because the term is perhaps better used for a document that's supposed to be independent, for example like a council report.

However, you say nothing about stuff that should be independent but is in actual fact essentially dishonest (like that recent council document from Edinburgh) but try to use your pathetic arguments to undermine something which isn't supposed to be unbiased.



The author is identified - it's TDO. And that hasn't stopped it from being credible enough to be cited in the Bibliography section of European Economic's OFT update - Item A.14



You really must include smilies with this kind of thing GA, lest anyone thinks you're a bare-faced liar.

As you well know you were banned for claiming that TDO was being used to sell services, and for site newbies the whole sory tale can be read here.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/witchhunt.htm

As regards M&R being sent to councils, what we did state was that TDO didn't send it. Perhaps JD did, but he wasn't part of TDO at that time.

We did send a press release summarising M&R when it was published, but not the document per se.




I'm not really sure what this meaningless garbage is actually trying to say, but I can't really see what it's got to do with you anyway.



As per usual you make it sound like having a viewpoint and disseminating it is some kind of crime, which just shows what an intolerant and dictatorial individual you are

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I will say that if I didn't support the site .................or value the opinions of those who post here THEN I WOULDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO IT.

I just wonder why you continue to claim I'm a liar ................... when it is clear that much of this story have been found to be as I suggested it.

If you don't want to answer questions about your activity or the activity of TDO then you need to stop renegade representatives using this site to open doors into councils to speak on behalf of drivers without their permission.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

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Well I can't see anything factually correct about it at all, and you haven't even attempted to refute what I said.

If you want to make it sound like something dishonest is going on then you should be very careful with your facts or say nothing at all.

Your central claims were that TDO was being used to sell services to LAs and that it was run by a Manchester sports solicitor.

But you could never even name one LA to substantiate the former, and even you must now know that the latter was total bullocks.

There's a difference between wanting something to be true and it actually being true.






I refer you to previous posts.

Renegades? Opening doors?



No one to my knowledge has used the name of TDO in an unauthorised manner, and certainly none of the numerous claims you've made have provided any evidence of this.

You seem to forget that it's TDO admin who decides who the renegades are, not you.

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