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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:23 am 
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And about time too. =D>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Sto ... ?gusrc=rss


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"Taxi drivers went to court last year in an attempt to get pedicabs outlawed, claiming they were breaching an 1869 act of parliament which gave black cabs a monopoly on soliciting for passengers on London's streets."

"But a high court judge threw out the challenge, ruling instead that a rickshaw amounted to a "stagecoach", and was legal as long as it charged individual fares for each passenger."

So does that mean I could bypass taxi/PH licensing in London by using a saloon car if I charge individual fares for each passenger?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:25 pm 
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What do you mean about time? Them things are a shambles and need putting through the local crusher.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:41 pm 
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There is a further piece in the Standard.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/lond ... ?version=1


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TDO wrote:
So does that mean I could bypass taxi/PH licensing in London by using a saloon car if I charge individual fares for each passenger?

I think you could have done before the 1998 PH Act, which of course is what hapened.

The way the rickshaws get round it I believe is because they are not motorised vehicles.


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Do not think they should be able to peddle :roll: their trade!.
Do the punters have to wear seat belts,Safety helmets,shin guards ect ect ect.
Does health and safety issues come into this rickshaw business?
Mind boggles :?


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Ok

Here's one for u what about taxi bikes then, who licenses them? :?:

Off to the pub now

See ya later

Eric


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paul wrote:
Do not think they should be able to peddle :roll: their trade!.

oh dear !! :D

you ought to jump in to one and ask him to take you to the airport! just to see the look on his face... :shock:


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Eric the viking wrote:
Here's one for u what about taxi bikes then, who licenses them? :?:

Nobody, in the same way that if you gave someone a piggy-back ride home they could pay you because you ain't a motorised vehicle, even though in the court case the judge called them stage-coaches.

Still £25 a mile makes them nearly as much as the Black Cabs night-rate. :wink:

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A motocycle is not a motorised vehicle :?:

It is pal, and in London they take the likes of Carol Smiley, so who regulates them eh?


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It is pal, and in London they take the likes of Carol Smiley, so who regulates them eh?


what you get to go between carol smileys legs? AND she pays YOU!! where do i sign? :)


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Eric the viking wrote:
A motocycle is not a motorised vehicle :?:

But unless you have an engine stuck up your arse, you are not a motorised vehicle. Thus the piggy-back would be just fine. :wink:

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Ollie wrote:
TDO wrote:
So does that mean I could bypass taxi/PH licensing in London by using a saloon car if I charge individual fares for each passenger?

I think you could have done before the 1998 PH Act, which of course is what hapened.

The way the rickshaws get round it I believe is because they are not motorised vehicles.


Sorry, I don't know the details of the particular case, but presumably the stagecoach business relates to some old law, which presumably doesn't say that a stagecoach has to be motorised?

Presumably the PH legislation refers to motorisation, but does the older HC legislation do so?

Reading the summary in the newspaper (which can be misleading, I agree) the case seemed to be decided by the method of payment?


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http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Adm ... /2865.html

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:37 pm 
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what you get to go between carol smileys legs? AND she pays YOU!! where do i sign? :)


the queue is long and hard pal.

Seriously though I saw an article recently about a company in sussex offering a Taxibike service, on a motorcycle, Virgin do it so does Addison Lee and Anderson Young, but no reference re this in any licensing information, are these illegal too?

eric


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