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Author:  grandad [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  passing work
I know that I have asked questions before andgot the answers but I can't find them now.
Could someone please confirm if the following is correct.
A private hire operator can pass work to a hackney carriage from another area.
A hackney carriage can pass work to a private hire operator in the same area.
A private hire operator can pass work to another private hire operator in the same area.
Thank you in advance.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:20 pm ]
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and a coach operator can pass work to anyone anywhere anytime...
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: passing work
grandad wrote:
Could someone please confirm if the following is correct.
1) A private hire operator can pass work to a hackney carriage from another area.
2) A hackney carriage can pass work to a private hire operator in the same area.
3) A private hire operator can pass work to another private hire operator in the same area.

1) Yes.
2) Maybe.
3) Yes.
Author:  grandad [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:40 pm ]
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Now don't go confusing me with a maybe. I am sure that previously you said yes. Why is it now a maybe?
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:48 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
Now don't go confusing me with a maybe. I am sure that previously you said yes. Why is it now a maybe?

Because I'm not really happy about it. But that shouldn't make it illegal.

I think this is a case of it being legal cos there's nothing out there saying it's illegal. :wink:

I think my concern is how the hackney gets the job. If he advertises for hackney work then that's fine, but if he is advertising and passing work to a PH vehicle, albeit via a licensed PH op, then I think he should have a PH ops license.
Author:  grandad [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:02 pm ]
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I see, the hackney in question does in fact have a private hire operators license.
The situation is this. The hackney with the operators license gets asked to do work for a private hire operator from another area. Sometimes the work is for an executive type car that the hackney with the operators license does not have so they want to pass it to a private hire operator that does have an executive car.
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:19 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
I see, the hackney in question does in fact have a private hire operators license.
The situation is this. The hackney with the operators license gets asked to do work for a private hire operator from another area. Sometimes the work is for an executive type car that the hackney with the operators license does not have so they want to pass it to a private hire operator that does have an executive car.

It's a bit of a mess, but I'm more of the opinion it's illegal now. I think it's all down to the original punters expectations.

They have rang a licensed PH op in area A, if parliament had meant to allow that work to be passed onto PHs licensed in area B, then they wouldn't have made a sound and dance about cross-border hiring.

But they did, and despite umpteen high court cases and 33 years since the act, they haven't changed it.
Author:  MR T [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:12 pm ]
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As far as I know, it's legal in London but not outside of London, it is one of the issues that the MOM have been discussing.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:34 pm ]
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you can always pass on the exec car owners phone number for the punter to ring direct, that legal innit?...

"could you ring our posh car department"
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:57 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
you can always pass on the exec car owners phone number for the punter to ring direct, that legal innit?...

That would be a fine solution, but I suspect they think they would never see the punter again. :roll: :roll:
Author:  Smoked Glass [ Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: passing work
grandad wrote:
I know that I have asked questions before andgot the answers but I can't find them now.
Could someone please confirm if the following is correct.
A private hire operator can pass work to a hackney carriage from another area.
A hackney carriage can pass work to a private hire operator in the same area.
A private hire operator can pass work to another private hire operator in the same area.
Thank you in advance.
ALL yes HC are the operator/driver therefore may pass work to another operator either HC or PH. Oddly the driver of a HC can pass work to PH operator but not a PH driver direct. Sorry if you already know this.
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: passing work
Smoked Glass wrote:
ALL yes HC are the operator/driver therefore may pass work to another operator either HC or PH. Oddly the driver of a HC can pass work to PH operator but not a PH driver direct. Sorry if you already know this.

The only person allowed to pass work onto a licensed PH vehicle and driver is a licensed PH operator in the same area. The law is crystal clear on that.
Author:  Smoked Glass [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: passing work
Sussex wrote:
Smoked Glass wrote:
ALL yes HC are the operator/driver therefore may pass work to another operator either HC or PH. Oddly the driver of a HC can pass work to PH operator but not a PH driver direct. Sorry if you already know this.

The only person allowed to pass work onto a licensed PH vehicle and driver is a licensed PH operator in the same area. The law is crystal clear on that.
thats what i said didnt i :?: or are you agreeing with me.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:01 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
you can always pass on the exec car owners phone number for the punter to ring direct, that legal innit?...

That would be a fine solution, but I suspect they think they would never see the punter again. :roll: :roll:


then that would be the last one passed on, a drink/commission/backhander is expected when scratching backs, of course any punter supplied with a posh car indirectley can approach the driver and poach him, the drivers integrity will decide if one punter but a lost contact for more work is worth it
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: passing work
Sussex wrote:
Smoked Glass wrote:
ALL yes HC are the operator/driver therefore may pass work to another operator either HC or PH. Oddly the driver of a HC can pass work to PH operator but not a PH driver direct. Sorry if you already know this.

The only person allowed to pass work onto a licensed PH vehicle and driver is a licensed PH operator in the same area. The law is crystal clear on that.


coach company?.....
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