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taximanchester · **Joined:** Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:00 pm **Posts:** 24

Does anybody know the case history of the person who made an application for a HC proprietors license, without initially submitting the details of the cab?
Apparently he went to court on an unmet demand issue & won the case, later submitting cab details??

captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:58 pm

taximanchester wrote:

Does anybody know the case history of the person who made an application for a HC proprietors license, without initially submitting the details of the cab?
Apparently he went to court on an unmet demand issue & won the case, later submitting cab details??

It was mentioned in this case;

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7479&highlight=preece

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Sussex · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:07 pm

taximanchester wrote:

Does anybody know the case history of the person who made an application for a HC proprietors license, without initially submitting the details of the cab?

Cannock Chase-v-Aldritt, one of my most favourite judgements. =D>

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=2751

captain cab · **Posted:** Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:09 pm

Doesn't the Key Cabs case contradict Aldritt?

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Sussex · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:37 pm

captain cab wrote:

Doesn't the Key Cabs case contradict Aldritt?

I think J Mitting in Key Cabs muddied the water, and mentioned something about chassis numbers or the like, but he did say the vehicle need not be present when an application was made.

Put that alongside the insurance aspect, mentioned by J Mann in Cannock, then I'm quite confident a judge would find a council unreasonable refusing an application based solely on a non present vehicle. :wink:

Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:04 pm

Sussex wrote:

captain cab wrote:

Doesn't the Key Cabs case contradict Aldritt?

I think J Mitting in Key Cabs muddied the water, and mentioned something about chassis numbers or the like, but he did say the vehicle need not be present when an application was made.

Put that alongside the insurance aspect, mentioned by J Mann in Cannock, then I'm quite confident a judge would find a council unreasonable refusing an application based solely on a non present vehicle. :wink:

Don't understand this one at all.

Surely all the council / licensing department want to see is the paperwork for the vehicle, i.e. V5, insurance, MOT, supplementary test certificate, vehicle license application form, taximeter test certificate etc.

If the council's licensing department have entrusted a garage to test the vehicle to the standards that the council has stipulated, then why should an LO need to see the vehicle?

Don't they trust their appointed garages?

captain cab · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:30 pm

I would have thought to license a vehicle you'd need to fill in an application form, wouldn't this need a registration number?

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Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:00 pm

captain cab wrote:

I would have thought to license a vehicle you'd need to fill in an application form, wouldn't this need a registration number?

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That number is on the MOT, supplementary test cert, V5 etc.

We don't fill our forms in until after the vehicle tests have been completed.

captain cab · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:14 pm

We have to fill in application forms first

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Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:18 pm

captain cab wrote:

We have to fill in application forms first

CC

What's the point of that?

captain cab · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:08 pm

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

captain cab wrote:

We have to fill in application forms first

CC

What's the point of that?

Filling out an application form you mean?

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Sussex · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:05 pm

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

Don't understand this one at all.

We are talking about applications for vehicle licenses in a restricted area.

No-one is going to buy a TX4, or the like, if they aren't 100% certain the application will be granted.

Brummie Cabbie · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:29 pm

Sussex wrote:

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

Don't understand this one at all.

We are talking about applications for vehicle licenses in a restricted area.

No-one is going to buy a TX4, or the like, if they aren't 100% certain the application will be granted.

Ora mi sembra di capire, grazie, onorevole Sussex!

grandad · **Joined:** Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm **Posts:** 19708

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

captain cab wrote:

I would have thought to license a vehicle you'd need to fill in an application form, wouldn't this need a registration number?

CC

That number is on the MOT, supplementary test cert, V5 etc.

We don't fill our forms in until after the vehicle tests have been completed.

You can MOT, insure, register and tax a vehicle without a registration number. Everything can be done using the VIN number.

toots · **Posted:** Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:12 pm

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

Sussex wrote:

Brummie Cabbie wrote:

Don't understand this one at all.

We are talking about applications for vehicle licenses in a restricted area.

No-one is going to buy a TX4, or the like, if they aren't 100% certain the application will be granted.

Ora mi sembra di capire, grazie, onorevole Sussex!

Sono sicuro che siete i benvenuti Mr Brummie :wink:

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