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Passengers are to be allowed to haggle with drivers to minimise the effect of soaring taxi fares.

A rule is being introduced which will let customers agree a price before they set off, rather than having to pay the amount on the meter.

It will come into force from April - when black cab fares are expected to rise by almost six per cent. This will be the sixth time the fares have risen since Ken Livingstone became Mayor in 2000. Transport for London is changing the rules after an Office of Fair Trading ruling last year that the amount on the meter should be a "maximum" rather than a "mandatory" charge.

This is to protect customers from being overcharged - while giving them the opportunity to negotiate the fare down.

TfL said the move was a step forward for passengers but warned it may have little effect in practice. "The Public Carriage Office doesn't see this happening," a spokeswoman admitted. "The likelihood is negotiating just wouldn't happen because the taxi driver would drive off."

Trade representatives poured scorn on the idea. Bob Oddy of the Licensed Taxi Drivers' Association said: "As a general rule, passengers don't want to barter with taxi drivers. Sometimes one or two passengers will say, 'I have missed my last train, I have only got £30 on me, is that enough to get me home?' That is the sort of thing that has always happened. This rule will make no difference."

The change will be introduced on 2 April alongside the annual rise in black cab fares. Rates will increase by 3.5 per cent, but the minimum fare will also rise by 20p to £2.20, leading to an overall increase of 5.6 per cent.

According to TfL, the average fare will rise by 53p to £9.91. It says there are 88 million black cab journeys a year. The rises will not affect minicabs. The 20p will be a "green" levy to help taxis comply with new air quality regulations.

A typical three-mile weekday journey will have jumped 60p to £7.60 in just over a year, while a six-mile trip at the weekend will cost £19.60 - £1.60 more than last March.

The Liberal Democrats warned continued fare rises could put passengers' safety in jeopardy by forcing them to turn to cheaper illegal minicabs. They said the higher taxi fares completed a series of above-inflation rises imposed by the Mayor across all public transport since he was re-elected last June.

Bus fares rose by 13 per cent and Tube fares four per cent this month. Lynne Featherstone, Lib-Dem chairwoman of the London Assembly transport committee, said: "It seems no transport is safe from Ken Livingstone trying to bleed more cash out of Londoners.

"I am seriously concerned that allowing fares to rise even further could lead to more people using unlicensed minicabs, because they are considered the cheapest form of transport to get home on a late night."

TfL said the fare rises were set to ensure London's 25,000 cabbies received a cost-of-living increase and were compensated for rising fuel and maintenance bills.

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haggle? at those prices i'd be phoning for a minicab...

same trips with me would be £5.60 for the 3 mile and £9.20 for the 6 mile.

Haggle is if it's not hard to maker a living without having to haggle the price, if they don't want to pay walk it.

Perhaps the London boys should haggle when they pay their license fees.

Or if barter is the new PCO in-word, then give the lads the right to barter up-wards.

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IDFIMH

Who said anything about bartering?

"I'll give you a few share options/a haircut/a couple of steaks/a couple of kippers(in January at least)/do your accounts/pole dance for you etc etc etc if you take me home."

I think that's why money was developed as a means of exchange!

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It's a bit ironic that they're putting fares up and at the same time saying that discounting should be encouraged.

It was the same in Edinburgh after the OFT report.

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Maybe the PCO should take a look in the provinces, where discounting is often rife and many passengers want to BARGAIN with drivers.

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Can this topic be merged with the one under 'news', I'm getting dizzy.

Welcome to the world of taxi forums.

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IDFIMH

You probably don't have to spend 30 minutes to cover 3 miles in London traffic?

Or contend with ken's bendy buses blocking the road.

Or drive a £30,000 LTI product?

Yep you coluld phone for a mini-cab, nice non english speaking driver, £7 minimum fare, clueless as to your location unless its on their sat-nav, go for it.

Out of intrest, how much is a 3-bed in your area? 'nough said!

I think this is the real statement of issue.

Bloke sticks his hand out, cab pulls up, can you take me to the palace for a fiver, nah guv it'll be a tenner, will £7.50 do, nah guv it'll be a tenner, hows about £8, as the cabbie pulls away.

A bit different up here cause we mostly sit on ranks, gets a bit stressful when two fares approach the ranks and the bloke who gets into the first car wants to barter a price before they set off.

I suppose HC lads would be entitled to put a sticker on the outside of their cars stating "council prescribed tariff only, no bartering".

Or would they?

B. Lucky

Hope your not stereotyping us! guv'nor.

not me, me auld cock sparra

whey aye man.

B. Lucky

hehe course not

apples and pears, tit for tat, daaan at ve olde graaaanby grille mate,


hehe

Captain cab

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