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Author:  TX11 CAB [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Travelling to work costs
I live in Kidderminster and Drive a Taxi in Birmingham. I drive my cab to work every day which costs about £40 - £50 per week in diesel, depending on days worked etc. Can I write this fuel off against earning when I fill in my tax return, or do I need to separate this cost and dispose of the receipts? I haven't used an accountant for years, but previously worked in Kiddy, and so didn't have to travel to work...
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
TX11 CAB wrote:
I live in Kidderminster and Drive a Taxi in Birmingham. I drive my cab to work every day which costs about £40 - £50 per week in diesel, depending on days worked etc. Can I write this fuel off against earning when I fill in my tax return, or do I need to separate this cost and dispose of the receipts? I haven't used an accountant for years, but previously worked in Kiddy, and so didn't have to travel to work...

Are you available for work every time you leave your house? i.e. do you have a radio in your cab?

If so then I can't see why you can't claim against that fuel.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Sussex wrote:
TX11 CAB wrote:
I live in Kidderminster and Drive a Taxi in Birmingham. I drive my cab to work every day which costs about £40 - £50 per week in diesel, depending on days worked etc. Can I write this fuel off against earning when I fill in my tax return, or do I need to separate this cost and dispose of the receipts? I haven't used an accountant for years, but previously worked in Kiddy, and so didn't have to travel to work...

Are you available for work every time you leave your house? i.e. do you have a radio in your cab?

If so then I can't see why you can't claim against that fuel.

If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.
Author:  Nemisis [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.
Please explain?
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.
Author:  Nemisis [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:20 am ]
Post subject: 
Thanks for that BC, I remember quite a few years ago, when diesel was cheap & expecting to earn £10 for every £1 fuel. You say its £6 for your area now...is there a web reference you could tell us, that others might find what HMRC expect of their area?
Author:  toots [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.


Surely if you can prove otherwise then it doesn't really matter what they expect
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:20 pm ]
Post subject: 
Nemisis wrote:
Thanks for that BC, I remember quite a few years ago, when diesel was cheap & expecting to earn £10 for every £1 fuel. You say its £6 for your area now...is there a web reference you could tell us, that others might find what HMRC expect of their area?

That's what my accountant tells me that the HMRC expect.

10 to 1 hey!!!

Those were the days.

If you Google the right words, somewhere on the HMRC site there is advice to their own tax inspectors that the average taxi journey in the UK is 3.7 miles.

So from that info a tax inspector [TI] on verbal investigation might go something like this;

TI: "How many jobs do you do on average a day?"

Taxi driver [TD]: "Dunno really, s'pose about 15 sometimes 18"

TI: "So shall we say, 17 a day for argument's sake?"

TD: "Yeh, s'pose so."

TI: "And do you work 7 days a week most weeks?"

TD: "No, I always have a day off most weeks."

TI: "So you work 6 days most weeks?"

TD: "S'pose so, yeh that's about right."

TI: "And do you go abroad for your holidays?"

TD: "You kiddin, can't afford holidays."

TI: "So you work 52 weeks a year?"

TD: "Yeh, gotta mate; times are hard."

And that's all the tax inspector needs.

17 jobs a day X 6 days a week X 52 weeks a year X the rate in £xx.xx for 3.7 miles as per your fare table = your earnings for the year.

And they know your vehicle's annual mileage from the DVLA MOT website too.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.

Surely if you can prove otherwise then it doesn't really matter what they expect

If you think that HMRC, who have been collecting taxes in their name and all their previous names for the King, Queen or Government for at least a millenium and income tax since 1798 have not honed their methods in all those centuries, then you really are blonde!!!
Author:  Nemisis [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:08 pm ]
Post subject: 
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Thanks for that BC, I remember quite a few years ago, when diesel was cheap & expecting to earn £10 for every £1 fuel. You say its £6 for your area now...is there a web reference you could tell us, that others might find what HMRC expect of their area?

That's what my accountant tells me that the HMRC expect.

10 to 1 hey!!!

Those were the days.

If you Google the right words, somewhere on the HMRC site there is advice to their own tax inspectors that the average taxi journey in the UK is 3.7 miles


I had the link http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/bens/ben25.htm
Those naughty Tax persons have removed it!!!
Cannot find any other reference now for love nor money.

Do you still have the HMRClink?
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:37 pm ]
Post subject: 
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Thanks for that BC, I remember quite a few years ago, when diesel was cheap & expecting to earn £10 for every £1 fuel. You say its £6 for your area now...is there a web reference you could tell us, that others might find what HMRC expect of their area?

That's what my accountant tells me that the HMRC expect.

10 to 1 hey!!!

Those were the days.

If you Google the right words, somewhere on the HMRC site there is advice to their own tax inspectors that the average taxi journey in the UK is 3.7 miles

I had the link http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/bens/ben25.htm
Those naughty Tax persons have removed it!!!
Cannot find any other reference now for love nor money.

Do you still have the HMRClink?

No I don't, but I may have saved it in word somewhere on my computer.

God know where though.
Author:  toots [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.

Surely if you can prove otherwise then it doesn't really matter what they expect

If you think that HMRC, who have been collecting taxes in their name and all their previous names for the King, Queen or Government for at least a millenium and income tax since 1798 have not honed their methods in all those centuries, then you really are blonde!!!


If the proof is there then it's there it has nothing at all to do with how long they have been collecting taxes nor the colour my hair should be :lol:
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.

Surely if you can prove otherwise then it doesn't really matter what they expect

If you think that HMRC, who have been collecting taxes in their name and all their previous names for the King, Queen or Government for at least a millenium and income tax since 1798 have not honed their methods in all those centuries, then you really are blonde!!!

If the proof is there then it's there it has nothing at all to do with how long they have been collecting taxes nor the colour my hair should be :lol:

How do you prove that your not taking 6 to 1 or close to it?
Author:  toots [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
toots wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Nemisis wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If he does, then HMRC will still expect 6 to 1 earnings from the cost of fuel on that portion of dead mileage.

Please explain?

In this area HMRC expect you to take 6 times your fuel expenses.

So you spend £5,000 a year in fuel, they expect you to take £30,000 for the year; roughly.

Surely if you can prove otherwise then it doesn't really matter what they expect

If you think that HMRC, who have been collecting taxes in their name and all their previous names for the King, Queen or Government for at least a millenium and income tax since 1798 have not honed their methods in all those centuries, then you really are blonde!!!

If the proof is there then it's there it has nothing at all to do with how long they have been collecting taxes nor the colour my hair should be :lol:

How do you prove that your not taking 6 to 1 or close to it?


HTF do I know :lol: If the guy hasn't got a radio in his cab then he has all that mileage to get to work, surely he can prove that
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Travelling to work costs
toots wrote:
HTF do I know :lol: If the guy hasn't got a radio in his cab then he has all that mileage to get to work, surely he can prove that

I'm posting generally.

And for the last two years I've had the same problem.

And I go down the motorway to work, so I can't get flagged down.
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