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And I think one reason that they like the car tax is that it means that there's some control over ensuring cars are insured and MOT'd, since basically the post office does checks those docos - after all, the chances of the average punter having to show his insurance and MOT to police are pretty small, which perhaps explains the amount of motorist without them.

I believe it is satelite tracking that is being mooted for this, this of course means they would have to know the registered owner/s of the vehicle and with the details on a database could of course cross reference the vehicles records to check that it has insurance, MOT and anything else they require such as our Identity cards, iris identification and the like :roll:

i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80.
that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134.
hmmmmmm. :sad:

Cgull wrote:

i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80.
that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134.
hmmmmmm. :sad:

i think we'll all be looking at that and scratching our heads. how can we pay £1.34 a mile when we only charge £1.20 a mile?

steveo wrote:

Cgull wrote:

i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80.
that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134.
hmmmmmm. :sad:

i think we'll all be looking at that and scratching our heads. how can we pay £1.34 a mile when we only charge £1.20 a mile?

paying to travel by the mile is a crazy idea. The average motorist does 12.000 miles a year, say 50% are motorway miles, thats 7 grand. Bloody ridiculous.

Regards

JD

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:50 am ]
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Interesting, but for those areas that charge less than £1.50p a mile there's not a lot left to pay the bills. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4610755.stm

Author:	TDO [ Sun Jun 05, 2005 2:00 pm ]
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Funny how the Govt caved in over the fuel duty escalator if they're so worried about congestion. Presumably the charge would go down as the night wears on, but I propose that it goes up for one group of motorists - boy racers

Author:	steveo [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:39 am ]
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??? i thought we all ready paid by the mile in the tax on our fuel? i think a fairer way would be to ditch road tax and put 10p on a litre (with tax rebates for taxi/PSV/HGV of course ). that way it would be fairer cos then the company exec in his 5 ltr V8 merc who does 60K miles a year pays more than the old biddy who goes shopping twice a week in her micra. plus all the £££millions saved from the paperwork in the post office and DLVA and police. or is that too simple for them?

Author:	TDO [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:16 pm ]
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I'm inclined to agree with you steveo. I think the reports said that road charging could replace car tax and fuel duty, or at least greatly reduce the latter. Of course, there is at the moment a slightly lower car tax for smaller vehicles, and there are other tax incentives for company cars. And I think one reason that they like the car tax is that it means that there's some control over ensuring cars are insured and MOT'd, since basically the post office does checks those docos - after all, the chances of the average punter having to show his insurance and MOT to police are pretty small, which perhaps explains the amount of motorist without them. But presumably the reason for a shift from fuel duty to road charging is that the former may be used as a detterent to vehicle use, but it's not time-specific, and therefore can't be used to encourage the use of cars away from the most congested times. On the other hand, variable road charging could be used to help spread vehicle use away from the busiest periods. However, as you point out, whereas at least fuel duty can penalise gas guzzlers, road charging can't do that, assume it doesn't depend on the size of the car etc.

Author:	steveo [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:31 pm ]
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TDO wrote: I And I think one reason that they like the car tax is that it means that there's some control over ensuring cars are insured and MOT'd, since basically the post office does checks those docos - after all, the chances of the average punter having to show his insurance and MOT to police are pretty small, which perhaps explains the amount of motorist without them. perhaps you get get an 'Insurance disc' everytime you renew. a lot of people turn a blind eye if they see a car parked in their street without a valid tax disc. the same car without an insurance disc would be a different story.

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Author:	Sirius [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:29 pm ]
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Author:	Sussex [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:32 pm ]
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Sirius wrote: I believe it is satelite tracking that is being mooted for this, this of course means they would have to know the registered owner/s of the vehicle and with the details on a database could of course cross reference the vehicles records to check that it has insurance, MOT and anything else they require such as our Identity cards, iris identification and the like I think that will be the easiest way to be rid of unisured vehicles. If the vehicle isn't insured and it's moving, then surely they can just point the nearest police car to it.

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Author:	Guest [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:32 pm ]
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i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80. that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134. hmmmmmm.

Author:	steveo [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:08 pm ]
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Cgull wrote: i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80. that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134. hmmmmmm. i think we'll all be looking at that and scratching our heads. how can we pay £1.34 a mile when we only charge £1.20 a mile?

Author:	JD [ Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:48 pm ]
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steveo wrote: Cgull wrote: i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80. that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134. hmmmmmm. i think we'll all be looking at that and scratching our heads. how can we pay £1.34 a mile when we only charge £1.20 a mile? paying to travel by the mile is a crazy idea. The average motorist does 12.000 miles a year, say 50% are motorway miles, thats 7 grand. Bloody ridiculous. Regards JD

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Author:	volvoman [ Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:09 am ]
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JD wrote: steveo wrote: Cgull wrote: i do a job to heathrow and the firm charges £80. that 50 miles there 50 miles back at £1.34 cost me £134. hmmmmmm. i think we'll all be looking at that and scratching our heads. how can we pay £1.34 a mile when we only charge £1.20 a mile? paying to travel by the mile is a crazy idea. The average motorist does 12.000 miles a year, say 50% are motorway miles, thats 7 grand. Bloody ridiculous. Regards JD It could only happen in "Blairland". if anyone thinks that road tax and fuel duty would be abolished as a result of this proposed scheme being implemented, then they are living in "Cloud cuckoo land". This will just be another form of stealth tax levied upon the people and an opportunity for this dictatorship to exercise a subliminal control over the movements of the motorist. As well as making people reluctant to use their vehicles for risk of incurring financial penalties, the whole concept of moving freely throughout our once green and pleasant land will be in jeopardy, thus restricting many people to staying in their own small communities ,perhaps losing contact with friends and relatives. At least the morons who voted for tony and the cronies in the election will not be complaining though, will they?