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Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Base licensing in Scotland
So should councils up there stay stuck in the past, or should they join the real world?

As Big Brother says (with that annoying accent), "you decide". :wink:

Link to Scottish Executive website
Author:  Renfrewshire Driver [ Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Radio room licenses
First of all the main thrust behind this proposal seems to be a desire to remove the allledged presense of organised crime from the private trade.

Wishful thinking, all they have to do is put up a front-man like they do in the pub trade.

Surely a more pressing licensing issue would be the security business where various T.V. & newspaper articles have highlighted how over the last few years gangsters have established a major & lucrative presence

Anyway there is no chance of anything happening soon, remember the last licensing review that took place three years ago

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... ght=review

It's still no further forward & it took 2 years to make its views known

All the best
Author:  The Dundonian [ Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Radio room licenses
Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
Surely a more pressing licensing issue would be the security business where various T.V. & newspaper articles have highlighted how over the last few years gangsters have established a major & lucrative presence



Didn't the Scottish Executive give up on that and hand it back to the industry regulator in England?

So much for devolution :lol:

I cant find anything recent on it, but this was a few months ago. It probably got delayed by the election and all that which held up the Bill.

ROGUE security firms in Scotland will face a major crackdown under new legislation to set up a UK Serious Organised Crime Agency.

It follows a spate of fires in the Glasgow area which were linked to turf wars among private security firms.

The Bill approving the new agency also extends the powers of the Security Industry Authority, already operating in England and Wales, to Scotland.

It will cut out any delay caused by the Scottish Parliament creating its own legislation.

Justice Minister Cathy Jamieson said: "The public has very real concerns with the private security industry and some of the individuals and companies operating within it.

"While it is a small minority who are involved in criminal activity, the nature of the crimes, such as money laundering and drug dealing, are very serious.

"Regulation will protect public safety as well as the responsible employer.

"By including Scotland within the remit of an already established authority, we ensure there is no duplication of administrative effort and costs.

"It also means firms which operate both in Scotland and in England and Wales will be required to deal with only one authority.

"Scottish Ministers are committed to forging a very close working relationship with the agency."

The decision to back the amendment of Private Security Act follows talks between Westminster and Holyrood over the last 18 months.

However, Glasgow SNP MSP Sandra White, who has campaigned for tighter regulation, expressed doubts about the new legislation.

She said: "I'm pleased they've responded to the pressure but I don't know if this will be effective enough.

"I think we may need our own bureau to investigate these firms and perhaps our own legislation so we can stop rogue operators."

Scottish Ministers must agree the new agency's annual plan as it relates to Scotland and its staff operating in Scotland will be subject to the direction of the Lord Advocate in the investigation and prosecution of crime.

Recent attacks on Glasgow building sites were thought to have been linked to turf wars between gangland figures who operate private security firms.

In September a blaze which caused more than a £ 1million worth of damage broke out on a housing estate in Crookston which security form Osiris had the contract to protect.

A total of 16 flats on a Bryant Homes Development at Riverford Road, Pollokshaws, were torched in May 2003, the same month in which 12 partially -built flats were destroyed in Killearn Street, Possilpark.
Author:  Sussex [ Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Radio room licenses
Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
Wishful thinking, all they have to do is put up a front-man like they do in the pub trade.

They could, but if they did then they are taking big risks.

For all those that knock PH licensing in London, many many iffy ops have been booted out, or more likely never allowed in. So if it is done properly, then it could well work.

The only thing you will have then is the legal nightmare of cross-border hiring. ](*,)
Author:  Guest [ Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base licensing in Scotland
Sussex wrote:
As Big Brother says (with that annoying accent), "you decide". :wink:

i hope you not being unkind to that angel bloke. :roll:
Author:  Ollie [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:42 pm ]
Post subject: 
I can't believe that firms aren't licensed in Scotland. :shock:

Even we have got past that. :roll:

Ollie
Author:  GBC [ Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Radio room licenses
Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
First of all the main thrust behind this proposal seems to be a desire to remove the allledged presense of organised crime from the private trade.


Where would the London drug trade be today if it was'nt for your local friendly minicab office?

And the Burglary artifice teams? You have to respect these peoples needs before you start making statements like the above. :wink:
Author:  Guest [ Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Radio room licenses
greenbadgecabby wrote:
Where would the London drug trade be today if it was'nt for your local friendly minicab office?

there is a rumour that quite a few brighton plates have been bought with drugs money. :sad:
Author:  GBC [ Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Radio room licenses
Cgull wrote:
greenbadgecabby wrote:
Where would the London drug trade be today if it was'nt for your local friendly minicab office?

there is a rumour that quite a few brighton plates have been bought with drugs money. :sad:



There you go skull no need for all that expensive legal challenge against the city council!
Author:  Paisley Buddie [ Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Base Licensing
If it happens it will just lead to higher radio money for us drivers so the companies can pay for more staff to deal with the extra bureaucracy
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Base Licensing
Paisley Buddie wrote:
If it happens it will just lead to higher radio money for us drivers so the companies can pay for more staff to deal with the extra bureaucracy

I'm not so sure about that PB. :-k

Firms down here just have to fill in an operator's license, either yearly or three yearly. The owners have to be 'fit and proper' and a fee to cover the cost of the license is charged.

I would say the application will take half an hour to fill in, and cost will be small in comparison to other charges we face. :wink:
Author:  Renfrewshire Driver [ Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Council's respond to base licensing
Two local authorities have know published their views on taxi & private hire base licensing

Glasgow City Council ;

Link to council website

Renfrewshire Council ;

Link to council website
Author:  Sussex [ Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Council's respond to base licensing
Renfrewshire Driver wrote:
Two local authorities have know published their views on taxi & private hire base licensing

Glasgow City Council

And if any council needs base station licensing it's Glasgow. :roll:
Author:  dundee wav [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:15 am ]
Post subject: 
dundee council have it on their agenda for the meeting this thursday, its nice to see nobody applied for a hack plate this month last meeting one person applied for one, who says quality control does,t work?
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