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Author:  jimbo [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:57 am ]
Post subject:  Central Trains Station Contract
Just collected the new contract, due from 1st. April.

Contains the following clause:-

WHEREAS:-

(A) The object of the Taxi Operator(s) taxi cab business is (inter alia) to supply and maintain licensed mini cabs to be available at LINCOLN Station for the use of passengers arriving at the said station.

(B) The Station Owner has agreed to permit licensed mini cabs operated by the Taxi Operator to ply for hire at their said station, LINCOLN.....

"TAXI" means a vehicle licensed by the City Council as a licensed mini cab or Hackney Carriage and/or owned by the taxi operator.....

3.4.1 Taxi and motor vehicle Law; the Town Police clauses act 1847 and 1899, Local Gov. Misc Provisions Act 1976.....

15.6 This agreement shall be governed bay (sic) and construed in accordance with English Law.


Well, it's nice to know their legal department is up to speed on law regarding plying for hire.... :shock: :shock:
Author:  GBC [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Central Trains Station Contract
jimbo wrote:
(B) The Station Owner has agreed to permit licensed mini cabs operated by the Taxi Operator to ply for hire at their said station, LINCOLN.....

"TAXI" means a vehicle licensed by the City Council as a licensed mini cab or Hackney Carriage



I'll spread this news amoungst my touting friends I'll see this weekend, then they can all head North and work Lincoln Station.

:wink:
Author:  jimbo [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Central Trains Station Contract
greenbadgecabby wrote:
jimbo wrote:
(B) The Station Owner has agreed to permit licensed mini cabs operated by the Taxi Operator to ply for hire at their said station, LINCOLN.....

"TAXI" means a vehicle licensed by the City Council as a licensed mini cab or Hackney Carriage



I'll spread this news amoungst my touting friends I'll see this weekend, then they can all head North and work Lincoln Station.

:wink:


That's what I like about you...
Author:  TDO [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:07 pm ]
Post subject: 
So presumably they're assuming that the rank is on private property thus PH can ply for hire?
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:46 am ]
Post subject: 
TDO wrote:
So presumably they're assuming that the rank is on private property thus PH can ply for hire?


Presumption and assumption aside, a station taxi rank is a public place, irrespective of whether or not it is private property. (and Lincoln Station Forecourt is NOT private property) I have been informed that the contract interpretation of "mini-cab" is a saloon type hackney carriage. I informed central trains that was unneccessary, either a vehicle is a licensed hackney carriage, or it is not. No grey area (despite many ph drivers believing they are driving a taxi).
Author:  TDO [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
Yes, I'm beginning to see what you mean now Jimbo.

But, leaving aside the Lincoln scenario, isn't it the case that a station rank could be deemed a private place and thus PH cars could ply for hire?

Wasn't that the conclusion in the Eastbourne case, although not necessarily applicable to the facts of the case itself?
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:34 pm ]
Post subject: 
TDO wrote:
But, leaving aside the Lincoln scenario, isn't it the case that a station rank could be deemed a private place and thus PH cars could ply for hire?

Wasn't that the conclusion in the Eastbourne case, although not necessarily applicable to the facts of the case itself?

It all depends on whether that chap on the London bus can see the rank from a public place, and is attracted to it.

But of course that law doesn't apply in Watford, for whatever reason. :-k
Author:  Guest [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
our station as has a rank at the front for cabs.
and the nutter who did the damage.
and a ph pick up point out the back.
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
TDO wrote:
Yes, I'm beginning to see what you mean now Jimbo.

But, leaving aside the Lincoln scenario, isn't it the case that a station rank could be deemed a private place and thus PH cars could ply for hire?

Wasn't that the conclusion in the Eastbourne case, although not necessarily applicable to the facts of the case itself?


PH cars cannot ply for hire, can they?
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:18 pm ]
Post subject: 
Cgull wrote:
our station as has a rank at the front for cabs.
and the nutter who did the damage.
and a ph pick up point out the back.


Why, has he not been lynched yet?
Author:  TDO [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:01 pm ]
Post subject: 
jimbo wrote:
PH cars cannot ply for hire, can they?


Well if it's on private property, and with the owner's consent, then I think the can :-k

It certainly happens at one or two airports as far as I know, but no doubt while in theory it's permissable in law, in practice there are very probably scenarios that could be challenged in court.
Author:  Eric the viking [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:34 pm ]
Post subject: 
TDO wrote

Quote:
It certainly happens at one or two airports as far as I know, but no doubt while in theory it's permissable in law, in practice there are very probably scenarios that could be challenged in court.


All providing there is a record of the booking back at the office this constitutes a prebooked PH fare, that's it in a nutshell, where ya going guv whats ya name, I will just call the fare through to the office before we set off.

Not a practice I subscribe to by the way but none the less very common.

Regards Eric 8)
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
Eric the viking wrote:
All providing there is a record of the booking back at the office this constitutes a prebooked PH fare, that's it in a nutshell, where ya going guv whats ya name, I will just call the fare through to the office before we set off.

Not a practice I subscribe to by the way but none the less very common.

Well I think it's OK. :shock:

I doubt a driver could be done for illegal hiring in that case. Maybe illegal plying. :?
Author:  Ollie [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Central Trains Station Contract
jimbo wrote:
"TAXI" means a vehicle licensed by the City Council as a licensed mini cab or Hackney Carriage and/or owned by the taxi operator.....

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Ollie
Author:  GBC [ Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Central Trains Station Contract
Ollie wrote:
jimbo wrote:
"TAXI" means a vehicle licensed by the City Council as a licensed mini cab or Hackney Carriage and/or owned by the taxi operator.....

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Ollie



Except in London where the act prohibits it.

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