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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontracting |
Well this is unusual Came across this via Taxi Point, and there's a link below to that piece, which is slightly less technical, and more readable. But this below is from the council minutes in the raw. TO REVIEW A PRIVATE HIRE OPERATORS LICENCE https://horsham.moderngov.co.uk/documen ... mittee.pdf The Licensing Sub Committee was held to consider if a Private Hire Operator, within the Horsham District was a fit and proper person to hold an Operator’s Licence. The Chairman proposed that the Committee move to an exempt session, and this was seconded. RESOLVED that, under Section 100A of the Local Government Act 1972, the press and public be excluded from the meeting for the debate and consideration of the item, on the grounds that it involved the likely disclosure of exempt information, as defined in Part 1 of Schedule 12A of the Act, by virtue of paragraph 3 (information relating to the financial or business affairs of any particular person (including the authority holding that information)) and paragraph 5 (information in respect of which a claim to legal professional privilege could be maintained in legal proceedings) and, in all the circumstances of the case, the public interest in maintaining the exemption outweighed the public interest in disclosing the information. Between March 2024 and August 2024, a Horsham District Council licensed Private Hire Operator, booked and sub-contracted eighty-seven journeys to a Licensed Private Hire Driver, with another Licensing Authority. This was contrary to the following acts:
• Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 Sub Sections: 46; Vehicle, drivers’ and operators’ licences and 55A: Sub-contracting by operators The Licensing Officer presented the report, which set out details of the events which led to the consideration of the Private Hire Operators licence. Particular attention was drawn to Horsham District Council’s Private Hire Driver Policy and the requirement that any private hire vehicle dispatched by a licensed private hire operator, and any individual driving the vehicle, must be licensed by the same Licensing Authority as the private hire operator. The Sub Committee considered documentation and background information provided on the licensed Private Hire Operator. The Private Hire Operator attended the hearing, explained the events which lead to the sub-contracting of journeys to another Licensed Private Hire Operator (not with Horsham District Council) and answered questions. It was acknowledged that since the review of the Operator Licence, improved booking procedures and a greater understanding of procedures and conditions had been put in place. Assurance was given to the panel that the business was operating correctly and the need to protect the public and ensure public safety was of upmost importance. All drivers used by the Private Hire Operator were providing documentation to ensure they were licensed by Horsham District Council. The Chairman and members of the Sub Committee considered the statements and responses, all evidence presented in the report and appendices, relevant law and the Council’s private hire licensing policy and guidance. The Chairman invited the Sub Committee to move to private session to deliberate. RESOLVED Members acknowledged that public safety is paramount, and this is why there are rules, regulations, conditions of licence, together with the council’s taxi licensing policy which the operator should be abiding by. It is important that the travelling public feel confident in the conduct of those licensed by Local Authorities, be it drivers or operators. The Sub Committee decided to:
Members were satisfied that the operator remains a fit and proper person and not withstanding mistakes, there are lessons to be learned and learning outcomes. Some improvements are required and within the period of suspension, it will allow the learning period and incorporation of new practices and procedures in particular in relation to the understanding and awareness that a driver, their vehicle and operator, must have licences issued by the same authority. The suspension also serves as a punitive measure with the requirement to be fully aware of the law and obligations on a taxi operator within Horsham District. The Sub Committee decided that the two-week period of suspension was both proportionate and reasonable in the circumstances. Right to Appeal There is a right to appeal this Sub Committee’s decision though an appeal to the Magistrates’ Court and must be commenced within 21 days of notification of the decision to a relevant party. There is a fee payable for an appeal. A suspension can only take effect after 21 days, provided no appeal is lodged with the Magistrates’ Court. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontrac |
Horsham licensed private hire operator suspended for two weeks after breaking subcontracting rules https://www.taxi-point.co.uk/post/horsh ... ting-rules A private hire operator licensed by Horsham District Council has had its operator licence suspended for two weeks after councillors found it had unlawfully subcontracted dozens of bookings to a driver licensed by another authority. |
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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontrac |
Quote: Members were satisfied that the operator remains a fit and proper person and not withstanding mistakes, there are lessons to be learned and learning outcomes. Some improvements are required and within the period of suspension, it will allow the learning period and incorporation of new practices and procedures in particular in relation to the understanding and awareness that a driver, their vehicle and operator, must have licences issued by the same authority. The suspension also serves as a punitive measure with the requirement to be fully aware of the law and obligations on a taxi operator within Horsham District. The Sub Committee decided that the two-week period of suspension was both proportionate and reasonable in the circumstances. Some interesting wording there - they suspend him with a 'punitive measure', while a two week suspension doesn't seem very punitive And they're not supposed to *punish* anyone anyway (which is for the criminal courts) - it's more about being 'fit and proper' (although there's a concept in licensing law that allows for some element of punishment in this way, but I can't recall offhand what it's called). And they actually do say that the operator 'remains fit and proper'
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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontrac |
Anyway, can't be bothered reading it all again, but I don't really understand what happened It makes it sound like you can't sub-contract to another authority, but of course you can... I'd guess that the answer is that the jobs were sub-contracted to a car and driver licensed to another authority, but without an operator's licence in place in that other authority. So there was no triple-lock in place as regards the car and driver licensed by the other authority? But it all makes it sound like even if there was a triple-lock in place then it still couldn't be sub-contracted?
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| Author: | Sussex [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontrac |
I'm guessing that he had a vehicle on his fleet that was licensed elsewhere, without an operator's license for the area to which he was licensed. The operator passed him work directly, thus committing the breaches that he has admitted. However, if I, or any other license holder, broke the law 87 times, I'm absolutely certain they would be brought before the courts. The fact that Horsham didn't prosecute this mass lawbreaker is evidence that they care little about customer safety.
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| Author: | StuartW [ Mon Feb 09, 2026 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Horsham op suspended for two weeks re illegal subcontrac |
To be fair, it may well have been that the operator genuinely didn't have a clue about the triple-lock, and simply thought that as long as the car and driver were licensed elsewhere then he could use it for bookings, and he just thought he was doing the same as Uber and all the other legacy providers using cross-border cars I was kind of guessing they 'moved to private session' because councillors didn't have a clue, but didn't want to demonstrate that in public Quote: The Chairman invited the Sub Committee to move to private session to deliberate. Then this makes it sound like the operator needed two weeks out to clue up on it all And councillors probably needed some time out to work it all out as well Quote: Members were satisfied that the operator remains a fit and proper person and
not withstanding mistakes, there are lessons to be learned and learning outcomes. Some improvements are required and within the period of suspension, it will allow the learning period and incorporation of new practices and procedures in particular in relation to the understanding and awareness that a driver, their vehicle and operator, must have licences issued by the same authority. |
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