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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hackney meters |
Am I right in thinking that if a hackney is picking up at the rank or being hailed in the street and the fare is to another part of the same licensing area, they must use the meter? Can the LA withdraw the plates of a vehicle whose meter has not been changed to a new tariff? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney meters |
grandad wrote: Am I right in thinking that if a hackney is picking up at the rank or being hailed in the street and the fare is to another part of the same licensing area, they must use the meter?
In most cases yes, but we do have a few areas where the lads don't have meters. 
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hackney meters |
grandad wrote: Can the LA withdraw the plates of a vehicle whose meter has not been changed to a new tariff?
Yes, but a reasonable time should be allowed before such an action is taken. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:52 pm ] |
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But a driver can charge less than whats on the meter. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:45 pm ] |
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The company in question say that they don't need to use meters because they operate fixed fares. It is accepted that a fare can be less than the metered fare but without the meter running how can the customer know if the fare is correct? In our area it is a rule that the meter must be used for all fares within the borough (hailed or from the rank) Yet so far this company has never been prosecuted. They have, however, received a letter from the council stating that unless their meters have been changed and a calibration certificate received by July 1st they will have their plates revoked on July 2nd. Our fares were increased on June 1st. Would you say that this was a reasonable timescale and a reasonable course of action? |
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| Author: | Fae Fife [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:51 pm ] |
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There's a lot of discounting in St Andrews but I don't think there's any problem with not using the meter - you see taxis with punters with the roofer lit up all the time. I think the meters have to read the up to date tariff though, it's just the driver doesnt' have to charge it. I've heard drivers say that they won't get their meter changed but when push comes to shove they just do it. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:08 pm ] |
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This is probably the largest operator in our town and they don't want to pay £25 to have their meters changed because as they say they don't use them. The drivers could find themselves without cars in 2 weeks time. |
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| Author: | Downtown Cab [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:40 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: The drivers could find themselves without cars in 2 weeks time.
If we dont have ours changed within a week. Then we dont work. |
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| Author: | Darren63 [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:22 pm ] |
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TDO wrote: But a driver can charge less than whats on the meter.
A hard ass ex-licensing officer down here once remarked that undercharging in his eyes was worse than overcharging. I'm not sure if this a correct legally. |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:55 pm ] |
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Could you have the correct tariff on the meter, and advertise cheaper fares, or have your own tariff sheet in the cab, along with the council one. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:06 pm ] |
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Seems to be three different issues here: 1 Can a HC have a meter but not use it on a local run? 2 Can a HC have a meter but have it clocking at less than the official tariff? 3 Can a HC charge less than the official tariff? I'm quite sure 3 has been decide by case law. As for 1 and 2, I'm not sure if any case law covers this, but it's certainly the case that some LAs say that you meter must be calibarted to the up-to-date official tariff and that it must be used on local runs. It is possible that 1 and 2 could be challenged in court. |
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| Author: | Seventh Saint [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:07 pm ] |
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skippy41 wrote: Could you have the correct tariff on the meter, and advertise cheaper fares, or have your own tariff sheet in the cab, along with the council one.
I don't see why you would want to be cheaper but if you do you could have the meter reprogrammed. The meter is normally set at the maximum tarrif you can charge in your given area and there is no minimum. But why have two rates? That's quirky. Any way as I understand the rules you can charge whatever as long as it is agreed in advance of the journey. Get proof of that if you can. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:10 pm ] |
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Seventh Saint wrote: I don't see why you would want to be cheaper...
To get more work? |
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| Author: | Seventh Saint [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:14 pm ] |
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TDO wrote: Seventh Saint wrote: I don't see why you would want to be cheaper... To get more work? You'd need more though, wouldn't you, just because you are cheaper. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:29 pm ] |
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Yes, and I assume the idea is that the greater amount of work will make up for the lower profit margins. |
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