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 Post subject: P/H RADIO BOOKING
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:47 pm 
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I have been down the road of this before but we have a new ish officer.
Legislation please anyone on this.

I am a punter. I approch a p/h who has droped off. "hi mate you free"
P/h radios office and says "can you book in a job from the ???????? I have a bloke here waiting"
Office books in a p/h takes job.

I understand that the punter MUST prebook. Ie phone the number on cab and book thorough the operator not driver.


I know it is a bit differant if you have a booked pax on board and says can you book me a return as this can be deemed as contuation of the existing contract.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:59 am 
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I suppose the driver could be done for touting his wares.

But if he gets a job from a fully licensed PH op, then I think that's ok no-matter how short the time is between booking and job.

In fact most jobs are despatch straight away after being booked.

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 Post subject: Re: P/H RADIO BOOKING
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:20 am 
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juls wrote:

I am a punter. I approch a p/h who has droped off. "hi mate you free"
P/h radios office and says "can you book in a job from the ???????? I have a bloke here waiting"
Office books in a p/h takes job.
l


We have been told by our enforcement team that in a book written by someone called Button this is perfectly legal


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 Post subject: Re: P/H RADIO BOOKING
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:51 pm 
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happy cabs wrote:
juls wrote:

I am a punter. I approch a p/h who has droped off. "hi mate you free"
P/h radios office and says "can you book in a job from the ???????? I have a bloke here waiting"
Office books in a p/h takes job.
l


We have been told by our enforcement team that in a book written by someone called Button this is perfectly legal


Probably Jenson Button or Chocolate Button.

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 Post subject: P/H Radio Booking
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:44 pm 
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Button is unclear. Milton Keynes v Barry is some caselaw on the subject and it relates to similar circumstances you tell, but the p/h was parked up close to a Hackney rank. It was never decided that a driver could not book a punter via his radio and there is nothing in the LG(MP)A. It defines an operator as "blah blah... make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle ..." No mention of a phone call. It would be brave authority to give this a run through the courts with no precedent set anywhere. Also lets not forget that Button is not always correct. I would say that it would be a different matter if you hopped in and set off and then the drivers blows the fare through on the radio.

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 Post subject: Re: P/H Radio Booking
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:58 pm 
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oldbloke wrote:
Also lets not forget that Button is not always correct.


Really? Nah.... :D


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 Post subject: Re: P/H Radio Booking
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:23 pm 
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oldbloke wrote:
Button is unclear. Milton Keynes v Barry is some caselaw on the subject and it relates to similar circumstances you tell, but the p/h was parked up close to a Hackney rank. It was never decided that a driver could not book a punter via his radio and there is nothing in the LG(MP)A. It defines an operator as "blah blah... make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle ..." No mention of a phone call. It would be brave authority to give this a run through the courts with no precedent set anywhere. Also lets not forget that Button is not always correct. I would say that it would be a different matter if you hopped in and set off and then the drivers blows the fare through on the radio.

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There is case law and its on here.

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 Post subject: Caselaw
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:14 pm 
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And I am sure you are going to tell me where eventually or have I got to guess?

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 Post subject: Caselaw
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:15 pm 
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And I am sure you are going to tell me where eventually or have I got to guess?

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Location: Plymouth, i think, i'll just check the A to Z!
i'd say it was illegal. it's the punter who must make the booking not the driver.


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steveo wrote:
i'd say it was illegal. it's the punter who must make the booking not the driver.
What if the driver hands the mike to the punter?

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steveo wrote:
i'd say it was illegal. it's the punter who must make the booking not the driver.

I've passed worked to the office via my mike a million zillion times.

Typical example, go to a job, find out they need another car, radio for an extra vehicle.

I think the question arises when you are sitting reading the paper and someone approaches you and ask you to book them a car, and you happen to be first on the point.

Two things can happen, the driver doesn't bother with all that booking lark, or they call it in and do it themself.

I think most of us would think the latter is the way forward.

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 Post subject: Re: Caselaw
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:23 am 
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oldbloke wrote:
And I am sure you are going to tell me where eventually or have I got to guess?


http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3615

Apart from the supermarket case which I can't locate at present, this case and the ones referred to in the judgment are the closest you are going to get to booking on the street. all the other cases refered to in this case are on TDO.

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