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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:32 pm 
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Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:48 pm 
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Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


What you don't think Supermarkets and Filling Station get together to set fuelk prices ?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:51 pm 
Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


Getting together instead of fighting each other makes good sense.
The reason we end up paying third partys for our work is the childish bickering and cloudcock thinking from the likes of Sussex.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:09 pm 
Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


A cartel is not always a bad thing. Without the OPEC oil cartel we would not have a consistant supply of oil.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:36 am 
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Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


A cartel is not always a bad thing. Without the OPEC oil cartel we would not have a consistant supply of oil.



this comment is [edited by admin]!

the oil cartel does not fix the price of oil, it sets the ammount of production.

therefore keeping prices up.

stick to taxis bud you know [edited by admin] all about the big things.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:02 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


A cartel is not always a bad thing. Without the OPEC oil cartel we would not have a consistant supply of oil.



this comment is [edited by admin]!

the oil cartel does not fix the price of oil, it sets the ammount of production.

therefore keeping prices up.

stick to taxis bud you know bleep all about the big things.


"the big things", this from a one-man-band PH. Attend all the G8 conferences etc. do you Sussex. Your estimation of your own self importance is boundless. If only you had the courage to back your business acumen with your own money instead of pleading for handouts.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:22 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


A cartel is not always a bad thing. Without the OPEC oil cartel we would not have a consistant supply of oil.



this comment is [edited by admin]!

the oil cartel does not fix the price of oil, it sets the ammount of production.

therefore keeping prices up.

stick to taxis bud you know bleep all about the big things.


But you constantly tell us that plates only have value because of the controlled supply,
Supply:Demand:Price. To ensure a constant supply the supplier wants a fair price for his goods, if the price is set too high demand falls and the supplier is left with unsold stock. Therefore some agreement and regulation is good for everyone. Consistant supply and costs is the key to stabillity and long term investment. The "free market" rarely is.
Sussex has been afflicted with rose tinted blinkers, he cannot comprehend anything other than his own small world in which his is the king and can never be wrong about anything.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:35 pm 
Sussex wrote:
Is has been suggested on another forum that an open meeting between the trade, council and police to discuss taxi/PH issues, is not a cartel. Well I agree, it's a sensible way forward for the trade.

However Mr Scanner, what is a cartel is when operators meet in a closed meeting and divy up the supermarket free phones, and the big accounts between themselves. Telling one another what they can bid for, and for who much. :shock:

The first set of meetings are no-doubt minuted, I very much doubt the second set of corrupt meetings are. :shock:


"Sussex" has found another club that he cannot get in.
Conspirises everywhere. As one door closes another slams in his face. Try Leper-online, you will fit in just fine.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:57 pm 
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What you don't think Supermarkets and Filling Station get together to set fuelk prices ?


Of course they do and that's corrupt too. But two wrongs have never made a right.

Also I haven't heard a cab driver defend a Petrol Company's cartel, but there are some who support a cab firm's cartel. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:02 pm 
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Getting together instead of fighting each other makes good sense.
The reason we end up paying third partys for our work is the childish bickering and cloudcock thinking from the likes of Sussex.


It might make sense, but it's also illegal.

But does it really help out the trade? If I was on a cicuit in the cartel, I would want them to get as much work as possible, not give it away.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:07 pm 
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"the big things", this from a one-man-band PH. Attend all the G8 conferences etc. do you Sussex. Your estimation of your own self importance is boundless. If only you had the courage to back your business acumen with your own money instead of pleading for handouts.


I think your views of me are starting to effect your posts, becuase that makes no sense.

But if you mean investing in a plate, well I will. I will be only too please to pay exactly the same price as every other taxi plate holder in the country, has paid their respective councils. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:17 pm 
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But you constantly tell us that plates only have value because of the controlled supply,
Supply:Demand:Price. To ensure a constant supply the supplier wants a fair price for his goods, if the price is set too high demand falls and the supplier is left with unsold stock. Therefore some agreement and regulation is good for everyone. Consistant supply and costs is the key to stabillity and long term investment. The "free market" rarely is.
Sussex has been afflicted with rose tinted blinkers, he cannot comprehend anything other than his own small world in which his is the king and can never be wrong about anything.


Well I suspect there are others with more nous concerning supply and demand, but what you have said is complete and utter rubbish.

You say that to ensure a constant supply you must get a fair price. Well how much does the price of plates change from one decade to the other, when issued by the council? They must have a constant supply, or they break the law.

But if your supply and demand formula is so successful, then why are the vast majority of UK's taxis working in un-restricted areas?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:21 pm 
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What you don't think Supermarkets and Filling Station get together to set fuelk prices ?


Of course they do and that's corrupt too. But two wrongs have never made a right.

Also I haven't heard a cab driver defend a Petrol Company's cartel, but there are some who support a cab firm's cartel. :shock:


No fuel, no work, no income. Fuel accounts for about 10% of the fare so consistant supply is as important as price. When the negotiations with the oil suppliers don't work we get fuel rationing etc. Wrongs and rights do not come into it, the real world is not "cricket, old chum".


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:26 pm 
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Anonymous wrote:
What you don't think Supermarkets and Filling Station get together to set fuelk prices ?


Of course they do and that's corrupt too. But two wrongs have never made a right.

Also I haven't heard a cab driver defend a Petrol Company's cartel, but there are some who support a cab firm's cartel. :shock:


No fuel, no work, no income. Fuel accounts for about 10% of the fare so consistant supply is as important as price. When the negotiations with the oil suppliers don't work we get fuel rationing etc. Wrongs and rights do not come into it, the real world is not "cricket, old chum".


Your point being????????

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:08 pm 
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"the big things", this from a one-man-band PH. Attend all the G8 conferences etc. do you Sussex. Your estimation of your own self importance is boundless. If only you had the courage to back your business acumen with your own money instead of pleading for handouts.


I think your views of me are starting to effect your posts, becuase that makes no sense.

But if you mean investing in a plate, well I will. I will be only too please to pay exactly the same price as every other taxi plate holder in the country, has paid their respective councils. :wink:


So if you were an airline pilot you should get your own plane and fly London -New York or every train driver gets his own train and routes, transport like most other businesses are regulated in some way. Why is it you think taxis should be any different, what benefits are there to anyone to have an unregulated unrestricted taxi trade. Regulations were introduced years ago to end chaos, to bring consistencey and safety. Trade grew because of public confidence, safe vehicles, published fares etc. you want to do away with the very thing that produced the growth in the trade. Your mandate is entirley selfish, if you can't have it your way you want to destroy it. You still ignore the fact that the vast majority of plates are held by people who bought them on the open market and not from a Council.


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