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In the next few days I'm going to highlight some of the undesirable legislation that we cab drivers need removing or amending and which the simple minds brigade headed by the NTA, T&G etc didn't have the brains or foresight to propose. It's about time these dummies realised that cab drivers couldn't give a chit about private hire operator licenses.
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One of the first items that needs introducing is waiting, loading and unloading and plying for hire other than at a taxi rank, which every one us does at some stage.

Hackney carriages Waiting and Loading and plying for hire.

It shall be lawful for any licensed hackney carriage to wait, load, unload and stand for public hire at any place other than a taxi rank, in any place not forbidden by law, except in such circumstances as to cause an obstruction to the road, street, highway or public thoroughfare.
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It will be unlawful to deny access to any licensed hackney carriage and private hire vehicle to any authorised bus lane.

If a 9-seater minibus is able to drive willy nilly in every bus lane in this country, then why can't a 4/5/6/7/8-seater taxi/PH? :sad:

Borrowed from my good friends in Scotland. :shock:

And person issued with a full hackney carriage license shall also be able to drive any licensed private hire vehicle licensed by the same district.

Now that will stop the crazy situation we have in many areas were drivers have to buy both taxi and PH licenses. Even when the entry criteria is the same. :sad:

A licensing authority will allow all licensed taxi and private hire vehicles to be fitted with an approved CCTV.

Nuff said. =D>

All PH must take a knowledge test, and have an maximum age limit on there vehicle of no more than 7 years. have there meters calibrated to the same tariff as hacks

We already have everything mentioned in the borders, parking anywhere picking up from the street when parked, CCTV if we want it, except PH using bus lanes, and having meters.

All hacks should have access to any part of a town or city, to carry out a disabled job

Borrowed from my good friends in Scotland. :shock:

Here are a couple I would like to see brought in !
Taximeter Usage
a) For every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged.
b) The fare is non-negotiable with the hirer and no fare greater than that displayed on the meter can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given.
c) A taxi used for private hire purposes must use the meter from the point of pick up to the end of the journey.
d) All Private hire vehicles must also have an approved Taximeter fitted and every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given.

Private Hire Operators
A licence may be obtained when it is deemed a person is fit and proper person, by obtaining a license this means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle.
A private hire operator may only supply work or take advance bookings for Private hire vehicles or Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that is Licenced within the same area as the operator supplying the work.

Any Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that wishes to accept advance bookings for more than one car ( Himself / herself ) will come under the same rules as any Private Hire Operator.

Well thats my oppinion for what its worth.

Steve

Author:	JD [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:	The legislative changes that should have been offered up
In the next few days I'm going to highlight some of the undesirable legislation that we cab drivers need removing or amending and which the simple minds brigade headed by the NTA, T&G etc didn't have the brains or foresight to propose. It's about time these dummies realised that cab drivers couldn't give a chit about private hire operator licenses. ________________________ One of the first items that needs introducing is waiting, loading and unloading and plying for hire other than at a taxi rank, which every one us does at some stage. Hackney carriages Waiting and Loading and plying for hire. It shall be lawful for any licensed hackney carriage to wait, load, unload and stand for public hire at any place other than a taxi rank, in any place not forbidden by law, except in such circumstances as to cause an obstruction to the road, street, highway or public thoroughfare. _____________________

Author:	Sussex [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:56 pm ]
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It will be unlawful to deny access to any licensed hackney carriage and private hire vehicle to any authorised bus lane. If a 9-seater minibus is able to drive willy nilly in every bus lane in this country, then why can't a 4/5/6/7/8-seater taxi/PH?

Author:	Sussex [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:07 pm ]
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A licensing authority will allow all licensed taxi and private hire vehicles to be fitted with an approved CCTV. Nuff said.

Author:	Sussex [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:17 pm ]
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Borrowed from my good friends in Scotland. And person issued with a full hackney carriage license shall also be able to drive any licensed private hire vehicle licensed by the same district. Now that will stop the crazy situation we have in many areas were drivers have to buy both taxi and PH licenses. Even when the entry criteria is the same.

Author:	Taxis [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:44 pm ]
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Here are a couple I would like to see brought in ! Taximeter Usage a) For every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged. b) The fare is non-negotiable with the hirer and no fare greater than that displayed on the meter can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given. c) A taxi used for private hire purposes must use the meter from the point of pick up to the end of the journey. d) All Private hire vehicles must also have an approved Taximeter fitted and every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given. Private Hire Operators A licence may be obtained when it is deemed a person is fit and proper person, by obtaining a license this means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle. A private hire operator may only supply work or take advance bookings for Private hire vehicles or Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that is Licenced within the same area as the operator supplying the work. Any Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that wishes to accept advance bookings for more than one car ( Himself / herself ) will come under the same rules as any Private Hire Operator. Well thats my oppinion for what its worth. Steve

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Author:	Taxis [ Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:49 pm ]
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A National Maximum table of fares that applies to all HC countrywide !

Author:	Taxis [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:49 am ]
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The right to use a trailer that will be subject to a test the same time as the vehicle. Some councils have a strict No Trailers policy. Well If you have insurance to cover them and they meet a required standard....Why shouldn't you have the right to use one for excess luggage ( Especially for 6 to 8 seater's ).....Where you have to carry 6 passengers and 6 large suitcases. Steve

Author:	GA [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:41 am ]
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JD wrote: In the next few days I'm going to highlight some of the undesirable legislation that we cab drivers need removing or amending and which the simple minds brigade headed by the NTA, T&G etc didn't have the brains or foresight to propose. It's about time these dummies realised that cab drivers couldn't give a chit about private hire operator licenses. ________________________ One of the first items that needs introducing is waiting, loading and unloading and plying for hire other than at a taxi rank, which every one us does at some stage. Hackney carriages Waiting and Loading and plying for hire. It shall be lawful for any licensed hackney carriage to wait, load, unload and stand for public hire at any place other than a taxi rank, in any place not forbidden by law, except in such circumstances as to cause an obstruction to the road, street, highway or public thoroughfare. _____________________ If this is intended to stop HC drivers from getting parking tickets while waiting to get onto a rank then I fully support your suggestion. However I do have concerns if your seeking to allow HC's to "rank up" anywhere as this could lead to councils suggesting the removal of ranks in the prominant places which provide many of us with our work. B. Lucky

Author:	GA [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:42 am ]
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Sussex wrote: It will be unlawful to deny access to any licensed hackney carriage and private hire vehicle to any authorised bus lane. If a 9-seater minibus is able to drive willy nilly in every bus lane in this country, then why can't a 4/5/6/7/8-seater taxi/PH? That should be a gimmie ................ under your LTP. B. Lucky

Author:	GA [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:43 am ]
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Sussex wrote: Borrowed from my good friends in Scotland. And person issued with a full hackney carriage license shall also be able to drive any licensed private hire vehicle licensed by the same district. Now that will stop the crazy situation we have in many areas were drivers have to buy both taxi and PH licenses. Even when the entry criteria is the same. Absolutely totally and utterly correct. B. Lucky

Author:	GA [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:45 am ]
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Sussex wrote: A licensing authority will allow all licensed taxi and private hire vehicles to be fitted with an approved CCTV. Nuff said. You had to bring this up ............... but your right that it should be clearly allowed in legislation, even though some would argue that they couldn't stop you anyway. B. Lucky

Author:	skippy41 [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:18 am ]
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All PH must take a knowledge test, and have an maximum age limit on there vehicle of no more than 7 years. have there meters calibrated to the same tariff as hacks We already have everything mentioned in the borders, parking anywhere picking up from the street when parked, CCTV if we want it, except PH using bus lanes, and having meters. All hacks should have access to any part of a town or city, to carry out a disabled job

Author:	GA [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:09 am ]
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skippy41 wrote: All PH must take a knowledge test, and have an maximum age limit on there vehicle of no more than 7 years. have there meters calibrated to the same tariff as hacks We already have everything mentioned in the borders, parking anywhere picking up from the street when parked, CCTV if we want it, except PH using bus lanes, and having meters. All hacks should have access to any part of a town or city, to carry out a disabled job I have a real problem with the age of a vehicle determining whether it should remain licensed ...................... although I do agree that a vehicle should be no older than 3 years (for the sake of argument) on the grant of its licence. Older vehicles should be tested more regularly. I would like to see the councils testing every vehicle annually, when the licence is either granted or renewed, with further testing being done by approved MOT testing stations. In the case of new vehicles, in the first year only the council test. Vehicles aged between 2 and 5 years one further test 6 months after the council test. Vehicles aged over 5 years two further tests 4 months and 8 months after the council test. B. Lucky

Author:	Tulsablue [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:46 am ]
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Sussex wrote: Borrowed from my good friends in Scotland. And person issued with a full hackney carriage license shall also be able to drive any licensed private hire vehicle licensed by the same district. Now that will stop the crazy situation we have in many areas were drivers have to buy both taxi and PH licenses. Even when the entry criteria is the same.

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Author:	Tulsablue [ Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:49 am ]
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Taxis wrote: Here are a couple I would like to see brought in ! Taximeter Usage a) For every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged. b) The fare is non-negotiable with the hirer and no fare greater than that displayed on the meter can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given. c) A taxi used for private hire purposes must use the meter from the point of pick up to the end of the journey. d) All Private hire vehicles must also have an approved Taximeter fitted and every such journey the taximeter must be engaged at the commencement of the journey and no more than is displayed on the meter at the end of the journey can be charged but no more than a 15% discount on the overall fare displayed at the end of the journey can be given. Private Hire Operators A licence may be obtained when it is deemed a person is fit and proper person, by obtaining a license this means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle. A private hire operator may only supply work or take advance bookings for Private hire vehicles or Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that is Licenced within the same area as the operator supplying the work. Any Hackney carriage owner/ proprietor that wishes to accept advance bookings for more than one car ( Himself / herself ) will come under the same rules as any Private Hire Operator. Well thats my oppinion for what its worth. Steve Don't you mean just make them all hackney, problem solved