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You've been spouting a similar message to this since TDO started, so I'll try to put you straight once again.

TDO has never claimed to represent anyone.

The reason for this is that it's not a representative organisation, and it's never purported to be one.

That should be as obvious as the Gateshead Angel, but still you try to claim otherwise.

TDO is more like an online magazine, and the forum is really just a comment section and/or like the readers' letters page, except that it's more open and timeous, because people can post contemporaneously.

We may disagree with the views of Taxi "talk" magazine and its contributors, but no one has ever said that it falsely claims to reprsent the taxi trade, because it's patently obvious that it isn't that kind of organ and it doesn't claim to be.

Is it really that difficult?

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But if they knew that then that might raise expectations and pressure to provide the discount where before it didn't exist.

There's lots of discounting in my manor, but the vast majority of short rank jobs are metered, because in general people accept that the metered price is the going rate. Surely if everyone knew that a possible 15% discount was enshrined in the rates then this would raise expectations that all would receive it?

If a shop advertised 15% discounts but couldn't say when and to whom it would be available do you think that would represent good business and please the customers?





Well I suppose if it's as widespread as you claim then limiting discounts to 15% might improve things, but on the other hand I suspect that in other areas it could make things worse.



Part of the problems is that the council has probably set the fare at the wrong level in view of local circumstances.

For example, you are advocating the use of two-bob motors in the trade, so is it any surprise that some are charging two-bob fares for them?

Or do you expect customers to pay top dollar to ride in two bob motors?

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I would not advocate the use of two-bob motors in the trade.
I have mentioned before that I did not see the need for a council to have the rule "3 years old max for the grant of its licence"

Not at all...I am also against the use of "two bob motors".

Personally I hate to see a rough Taxi maybe poorly maintained as well to top things off...and Why should a customer have to ride in a hanging bag of s*it...when the next car on the rank is very respectable, clean and well maintained ? Answer ..They shouldn't !!!!
There should be a standard to meet...Just a reasonable standard that will benefit the public, so the public can expect all taxis they might get in are nice cars.
AND the driver will automatically use the fitted Taxi meter.
But a maybe more affordable scale like where I am licensed.
Our rule in Derwentside is 7 years and off !!! Unless under exceptional circumstances when you have to get various checks carried out to prove its overall condition which consists of Interior, exterior and mechanical inspections...They must all pass as MINT to stay on as a working Taxi.
( Then you take it direct to the council for a further visual inspection...then they decide if it stays or goes...
But then again Do we really want to keep a Taxi for more than 7 years ?
Unless it was initially manufactured for the job and comes with X amount of years guarantee.

Regards Steve

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but while we have people contacting local authorities claiming to be from TDO, offering opinion rather than gathering fact I will continue.


but people are claiming to represent TDO.



I refer you to the comments made above.



As long as evidence exists that people are phoning claiming to be from TDO its obvious ONLY that those doing the phoning intend to mislead.



Its a great informative site, with very knowedgeable members ............... but the fact remains some think of it as a vehicle to spread their own views and beliefs.



I expect you will respond that I'm paranoid (if your feeling generous) but all to often we hear of activity not becoming of a non-representative group.

The intention of this site changed since its conception .................... are you suggesting that it is only a coincidence that a certain promenant member came onto the scene at the same time.

Still ...................we've discussed this before ................... and you have banned me because of my persistance on the matter.

All I ask is questions.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

GA you have raised some good points there !
Your powers of observation are quite impressive.
Give the bloke his due here.....and ask yourself is he wrong ?
I think you will answer "you know he is right and has a valid point !

Whats this ?

You have been banned ??? Never !

Steve

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Well it's good to see that GA has got you well trained, after only one meeting, I think

You'll note the way that in response to my post above he completely ignored what I said and started waffling about a different issue entirely.

No point in going over that for the umpteenth time, but he was banned for libelling the site.

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By the way, I think GA's confusion stems from the fact that he's misrepresenting the meaning of "representative body", by which I mean a body that represents a group of people.

TDO has never claimed to be an organisation of that kind, and anyone with an iota of common sense and who knows the site will be aware of this

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Well what can I say ? but i will at least try without been dis-respective in any way.
I have known Mick for some time now ! He is actually a real genuine bloke who yes gives me a very good educational conversation each and every time we chat.
Yes it really is more than one occasion !
I think I see him more than my wife at times.......( JOKE )
I will be honest ! I look at Mick as a friend. I Do not agree with everything he says but I must admit, some things I have doubted and gone against that Mick has said, I have had to eat my words as he has been right ( and proved by my official enquiries through local councils ).
The Taxi meter posts and the CCTV posts prove it, I now have it officially in writing proving YES he was right. ( Anyways that stuff is old hat now ).
In this trade most drivers cant give a chit about tomorrow and only live for the day....Mick has a more future outlook and recognises the need to improve this trade longterm !
He is one of the good guys honest. ( And no I do not sleep with him ).
Just give a man his due when he is right.
If more drivers took the time to comment and become involved maybe the trade would actually hear what we as drivers really want ! But NO...they all decide that they can not be arsed or they are too busy or decide that all talks are sh*t and they are above all that !
BUT then moan like old hen wives when legislation gets changed that directly affects them, then they say well we were not told...You will never hear "well we could not be arsed to listen" will you.


I was honestly surprised that Mick was banned, we have never discussed this point outside the site.
I thought that Mick was far more intelligent than to put himself up for nomination to be banned....No more than that !

I am also sure GA knows exactly what a representative body means, look at what he is saying.....It is quite clear. I will not comment on this as I do also have respect for other members..No matter what others think..

But there is a few members on here with multiple user names....
Well I am near sure to this, so I think its a "jekyll and hyde" syndrome at times, you could talk to the nice side then the more argumentative side of the same person without even realising it...

BUT then TDO I am not here to create an argument in any way !
I do however believe I have an opinion and sometimes it may not be the same as everyone else, I will say it and I am also prepared to be wrong.
But then thats what a forum is all about surely.....

I hope I have not offended anyone without cause....as there is more offencive posters than me BY FAR....So all I can say is
Yes Mick has learned me loads and loads, I like his company as he is educational, I will defend his corner if he is right cos I like him.

And just wait until I join the association I am been introduced to....
I cant wait....
No all joking aside...I like this site and yes it is the best about for any USEFUL information....But we must air our views with honesty.
Am I wrong ???? Correct me please !

Regards Steve

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The structure of TDO and how it operates is neither here nor there, if and when TDO ever decided to be anything other than a website that supplied news, constructive comment, online forum facilities and assistance or advice to those in need, then I'm sure it will be well advertised when the occasion arises?. In the meantime TDO has never purported to represent anyone or any being in the Taxi or private hire trade although I'm quite sure many people would wish it did. The opinions of TDO are just that and no matter what anyone says about it, TDO will always remain true to the principle of equality.

The TDO news section will always have cause to investigate items of news that are deemed interesting to the UK Taxi/PH trade and whatsmore I'm proud to say that it has had an effect in righting a few wrongs along the way. It goes without saying that TDO is proud of its independence and its own unique style of operation and no outside interference is ever going to change that.

I suggest that when you debate a point you concentrate on the facts and if you have any questions to ask then just ask them and if possible they will be answered.

JD

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Everyone on this forum has the opportunity to voice their opinion and views without fear or favour. Some of us would always like those views to be accompanied with fact but in many instances that is not always the case. However sometimes the facts are totally misrepresented on purpose or the person offering the statement as fact might be ignorant of the facts?

You suggest views are aired with honesty which I assume translates to facts?

Perhaps you are in a position to study the honesty and factual basis of the posts submitted by TDO and those submitted by Mr Gateshead Angel? When you reach a decision on the honesty of these contributions please let us know.

Regards

JD

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JD, Hello.
I did say
And I am not prepared to make a decision on the posts submitted by Mr Gateshead Angel and TDO, apart from not wanting to become part of a bigger argument that I can see you will obviously pull technicalities out of previous posts to create one......I am here to learn and air my OWN opinion....NOT begin to scrape the barrel and make decisions on posts of other members in detail...I can only say if I agree or not !
Can you please tell me in laymens terms where this direct fire comes from ?
For liking GA ? I don't know....You have got to remember I am not as clued up as you are...thats why I come here ! TO BE EDUCATED...
How on earth can I answer when I know I will be pulled to bits by terminology I may use ? I am a TAXI DRIVER wanting to learn from you more experienced guys ! Don't pull me down....learn me !

Steve

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I'm at a loss as to what business it is of yours as to what TDO does?



I think you should leave the activities of TDO to those persons actually involved in TDO. If anyone is passing themselves of as TDO representatives then I'm sure TDO would know about it. If it is a case of you having a personal problem with the way TDO operates then perhaps you should get it off your chest?



lol this site is designed to facilitate all views and beliefs, that is why you are afforded the same opportunity as everyone else to voice your opinion. Are you suggesting that TDO ignores everyone else's view except your own?



TDO has evolved with time and just as the moving finger writes and having writ Moves on, so do the pages of time. If we all live in the past like some I could mention we will achieve very little. After all, nothing is set in stone and if TDO has become the conscience of the Taxi Trade, then so be it.



If its answers you want then ask your questions and perhaps then your troubled mind will be at rest?

JD

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When you contact my LO, and identify me, then it becomes my business.



I have no problem with the way TDO opertate ............... however I do have a problem with you contacting councils offering your opinion on their policies, whilst stating that you are from TDO using an assumed name.

Not really honest is it JD.

If you approached a council to gather factual information about topics being discussed on here then that is one thing, but getting involved in disputes that don't directly effect you is acting as a representative ......... and stating or being known as a person involved in this site associates you as a representative of it.



The site is designed to facilitate everyones views and beliefs, and yes I do now get the opportunity to post my views and beliefs (although you must remember I was banned for doing just that, as were others).

But that is not what this is about, its about you using this as a vehicle to peddle your own beliefs .................... you tried to do it in a magazine as well ................. I wonder why that was cut short.



You are joking though JD .............. this site airs the views of those who contribute to it ................... and without being disrespectful to other posters ................ constitutes less than 50 people of a trade of many thousands.

You have a go at the NTA membership numbers, you have a go at the GMB membership numbers and you have a go at T&G membership numbers ................ but the bottom line is that all of these have signifigantly more members than TDO.

TDO has not become the conscience of the taxi trade ............... it has only given you the same opportunity as other members, that is to voice your own concerns ................ I think that the power afforded to you by the owners of this site (Sussex and Dusty Bin or alex and TDO or whatever else they want to post as) has gone to your head. You are a very knowledgeable man, with very clear principles and you should be respected for that ................. but I suggest you have illusions of grandure.



Well lets see ...............

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Why beat about the bush, perhaps you can advise us all of what you are talking about?

That might make things a little clearer?

JD

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John Davies
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Taxi Driver online.

Is that what you mean?

JD

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