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| Author: | STF [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Taxi radio a condition of licence? |
Sheffield council want to make a few changes and one of them is to make having a taxi firm radio a requirement of the licence. Is this legal? I can undestand driver training etc as something needed to maintain standards but to force drivers to pay for radios when they are happy to work from ranks (a great many do have PH circuit radios) doesn't seem right. What are your thoughts? |
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| Author: | JD [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi radio a condition of licence? |
STF wrote: Sheffield council want to make a few changes and one of them is to make having a taxi firm radio a requirement of the licence. Is this legal?
I can undestand driver training etc as something needed to maintain standards but to force drivers to pay for radios when they are happy to work from ranks (a great many do have PH circuit radios) doesn't seem right. What are your thoughts? I've got a great idea, why not ask Mr Jeffries then we can all benefit from his knowledge of Taxi legislation. Regards JD |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:04 pm ] |
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Sounds unreasonable to me. A court may agree. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi radio a condition of licence? |
STF wrote: Sheffield council want to make a few changes and one of them is to make having a taxi firm radio a requirement of the licence.
And I bet this has the full support of the taxi radio firms in your area. 
Is it legal, most certainly not, and I would bet a pound to a penny any challenge would succeed. And if it doesn't, well Taxicall is only £12 a month. 
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| Author: | STF [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:24 am ] |
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Taxi-call is a good option and may be up and running before long but being a condition of licence is a little disturbing. They have other proposals for driver training and such like which do make sense if we are to imprive standards but this proposal has a bearing on the delimit issue. The original report into provision of taxi services was revisited and question raised as to why there wasn't the predicted improvement in service even with twice as many cabs in the city, with too many cabs just sitting on the ranks. The one answer that all agreed on was that cab drivers are not organising and tendering for contract work, which they need to do if they are to compete with PH. The only way they see the cabbies being forced to organise is through a shotgun wedding to a radio circuit and hope the marriage works. 
It does have logic but being forced by law seems a bit dodgy IMO. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:47 am ] |
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STF wrote: Taxi-call is a good option and may be up and running before long but being a condition of licence is a little disturbing.
I would just ask your council as to what legal basis they are using to add such a condition of license? I know of one council that did likewise, but that was because of a shortage of one type of vehicle. Once the suppose shortage was supposedly sorted, the old non-radio policy was reinstated. 
Thank f*** councils know best.
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| Author: | STF [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi radio a condition of licence? |
JD wrote: I've got a great idea, why not ask Mr Jeffries then we can all benefit from his knowledge of Taxi legislation. Regards JD Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me you're trying to have a go for some reason, only I don't know what the hell you're on about and who is Mr Jeffries anyway? It's the reply in the deregulation topic which got me thinking and it seems you may have the wrong tree
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| Author: | GA [ Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:57 pm ] |
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But HC are governed by the by-laws and not local conditions. Is there to be an application for a change to the by-law? B. Lucky 
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| Author: | JD [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taxi radio a condition of licence? |
STF wrote: JD wrote: I've got a great idea, why not ask Mr Jeffries then we can all benefit from his knowledge of Taxi legislation. Regards JD Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me you're trying to have a go for some reason, only I don't know what the hell you're on about and who is Mr Jeffries anyway? It's the reply in the deregulation topic which got me thinking and it seems you may have the wrong tree I'm not having a go at you by any means. Your question was as follows. Sheffield council want to make a few changes and one of them is to make having a taxi firm radio a requirement of the licence. Is this legal? You asked if it was legal? I merely pointed you in the direction of the legal advice currently available free of charge from solicitor Keith Jeffries. I'm sure those who don't already know the answer including yourself would benefit from such legal advice. Why don't you ask him then you can advise your colleagues on the legal position and perhpas we can then debate that legal advice. Or perhaps the advice is not free and you have to pay for it, regardless of it being right or wrong? Mr GA advises you that Hackney carriages are Governed by "bye-laws" and not local conditions. I suppose that advice proves why Mr GA is a mere cab driver in Gateshead and Mr Jeffries is a Solicitor in Swansea. Regards JD |
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| Author: | GA [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:17 am ] |
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So can a local authority attach a condition to a HC licence? I don't think so. B. Lucky
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| Author: | cabby john [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:59 am ] |
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Taxi drivers are not generally trusted by councils, I would see this as an attempt to monitor where drivers are within the City. So if anything goes wrong they can pinpoint where they were. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:39 pm ] |
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I still think this would be illegal. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:13 pm ] |
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GA wrote: So can a local authority attach a condition to a HC licence?
I don't think so. B. Lucky Your half right; The proprietors / vehicle license is governed by conditions. The drivers license by byelaws CC |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:15 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: The proprietors / vehicle license is governed by conditions. The drivers license by byelaws CC |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:17 pm ] |
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gusmac wrote: captain cab wrote: The proprietors / vehicle license is governed by conditions. The drivers license by byelaws CC True, cant see this one being too popular for those journeyman drivers out there
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