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| Author: | cabbyman [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Surplus on the Licensing Account |
Our LA apparently has a very large surplus on the licensing account. When an officer of the Hackney Carriage Association enquired about distribution of this surplus, he was told that it was being retained to defend the council in any court action taken against it by drivers!! |
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| Author: | skippy41 [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Surplus on the Licensing Account |
cabbyman wrote: Our LA apparently has a very large surplus on the licensing account.
When an officer of the Hackney Carriage Association enquired about distribution of this surplus, he was told that it was being retained to defend the council in any court action taken against it by drivers!! Totally against the law to do that, a council cannot make any profit from licencing. If they have a surplus they are over charging |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Surplus on the Licensing Account |
cabbyman wrote: Our LA apparently has a very large surplus on the licensing account.
When an officer of the Hackney Carriage Association enquired about distribution of this surplus, he was told that it was being retained to defend the council in any court action taken against it by drivers!! But surely if they are doing their jobs right in the first place they should be confident of never losing in court. I would consider complaining to the Audit Commission http://www.audit-commission.gov.uk/aboutus/faqs/#q19 once you have had a reply in writing as to why your council is keeping your money. |
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| Author: | cabbyman [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Surplus on the Licensing Account |
skippy41 wrote: cabbyman wrote: Our LA apparently has a very large surplus on the licensing account. When an officer of the Hackney Carriage Association enquired about distribution of this surplus, he was told that it was being retained to defend the council in any court action taken against it by drivers!! Totally against the law to do that, a council cannot make any profit from licencing. If they have a surplus they are over charging Are you able to quote the relevant legislation, Skippy? Many thanks. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Surplus on the Licensing Account |
cabbyman wrote: skippy41 wrote: cabbyman wrote: Our LA apparently has a very large surplus on the licensing account. When an officer of the Hackney Carriage Association enquired about distribution of this surplus, he was told that it was being retained to defend the council in any court action taken against it by drivers!! Totally against the law to do that, a council cannot make any profit from licencing. If they have a surplus they are over charging Are you able to quote the relevant legislation, Skippy? I was asked the same question yesterday. Have a look at my post yesterday on this topic on this link; http://taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtop ... c&start=20 |
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| Author: | cabbyman [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:46 pm ] |
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I would like to ressurect discussion on this thread, if that's OK. Recent contact with LA has elicited that the council say the surplus is required for next year's expenditure. It will never drop below £x. This is changed from the previous statement that it was retained for use in legal proceedings. Is this new position taken by LA legal? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:03 pm ] |
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cabbyman wrote: Is this new position taken by LA legal?
And what happens if they don't spend it during the next year? Are they anticipating legal action? Ask exactly what amount is being 'ring fenced' for legal issues, and then you know exactly how much you will be due back next year. i.e they can only 'ring fence' an amount once, and can't carry it over to the next year unless they give you a rebate for the past year. If you get my drift? 
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| Author: | cabbyman [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:08 pm ] |
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They have made no mention of funding legal action this time. It is to cover future expenditure. I can understand wanting a contingency fund for extraordinary items not already budgetted for, but what are the legal constraints upon these funds, if any? [Sorry if I'm not putting this very well, hopefully I'll improve as the discussion progresses.  ]
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| Author: | Sussex [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:33 pm ] |
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cabbyman wrote: They have made no mention of funding legal action this time. It is to cover future expenditure.
Ask them how they quantify the amount, or is it just a guess? 
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:12 pm ] |
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and if they have made a "profit" one year, will they make one every year? how big a pot do they expect to be able to retain? i bet whoever admitted the excess gets the sack |
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| Author: | Stinky Pete [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:55 am ] |
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i have been told from a reliable source that monies from the York LA taxi dept is used for the following all the litter bins plus emtying, street cleaning, gulley/drain cleaning on streets with taxi ranks street lighting/ electricity, on streets with taxi ranks shelters and electricity used on taxi ranks road markings and no parking signs on taxi ranks cctv cameras on streets with taxi ranks York estimated income per year to taxi licensing around 1/4 million time for someone to request and see what their doing with it all |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:03 am ] |
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Stinky Pete wrote: i have been told from a reliable source that monies from the York LA taxi dept is used for the following
all the litter bins plus emtying, street cleaning, gulley/drain cleaning on streets with taxi ranks street lighting/ electricity, on streets with taxi ranks shelters and electricity used on taxi ranks road markings and no parking signs on taxi ranks cctv cameras on streets with taxi ranks York estimated income per year to taxi licensing around 1/4 million time for someone to request and see what their doing with it all And that's all allowed to happen cos your local trade aren't up for a ruck just in case the council threaten delimitation.
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| Author: | toots [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:33 am ] |
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Sussex wrote: Stinky Pete wrote: i have been told from a reliable source that monies from the York LA taxi dept is used for the following all the litter bins plus emtying, street cleaning, gulley/drain cleaning on streets with taxi ranks street lighting/ electricity, on streets with taxi ranks shelters and electricity used on taxi ranks road markings and no parking signs on taxi ranks cctv cameras on streets with taxi ranks York estimated income per year to taxi licensing around 1/4 million time for someone to request and see what their doing with it all And that's all allowed to happen cos your local trade aren't up for a ruck just in case the council threaten delimitation. I thought they already were threatened with de-limitation? Anyway IMO the council will spend the money how they want to and then de-limit when they want to
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| Author: | agabbycabbie [ Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:29 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: Stinky Pete wrote: i have been told from a reliable source that monies from the York LA taxi dept is used for the following all the litter bins plus emtying, street cleaning, gulley/drain cleaning on streets with taxi ranks street lighting/ electricity, on streets with taxi ranks shelters and electricity used on taxi ranks road markings and no parking signs on taxi ranks cctv cameras on streets with taxi ranks York estimated income per year to taxi licensing around 1/4 million time for someone to request and see what their doing with it all And that's all allowed to happen cos your local trade aren't up for a ruck just in case the council threaten delimitation. So what is the York taxi trade gonna do when the council increase licence fees, but they have to accept a freeze on fares for this year because of the slump, didnt stop CYC increaing council tax this year and it wont stop them increaing licence fees either, or charges to any others which make money for CYC |
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| Author: | Stinky Pete [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:55 am ] |
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are we paying through our taxi fees to contributing to Licensing staff Pension funds, when we ourselves cant afford to pay for a pension???????????? |
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