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Still better to not register unless you have to.

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I wouldn't disagree with that.

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Grandad,

Hopper wrote:



Sorry but I find this statement misleading, no accountant would be able to show you a way of not having to register if you were above the threshold it simply is illegal. Regardless it is the self employed persons responibility to see his vat tax and NI affairs are in order not an accountant, it is he that would be procecuted regardless of any advise from anyone else.

Anyway I have NEVER met an accountant yet who fully understands the agent/principle regs so there you go.

And yes still better not to register unless you have to in this business, for sure.

Regards

Eric

Grandad wrote:



Yes flat rate scheeme could be good however, you might get left out of pocket in the one year you make a large number of capital purchases like a couple of cars for instance.

Regards

Eric

All you need to do is split the company up into several smaller separate businesses........quite legal!

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Hopper wrote:



Sorry pal not legal the VAT office even have a name for this carry on, it's called artificial seperation, or to us laymen FRAUD and it always comes with a custodial sentance.

So if I don't see you on line for a while we will know why

Regards Eric

Very witty Eric! like yer style

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It is legal providing that each business that you are associated with is totally seperate from the others. Firstly you can't run 2 businesses on your own just to avoid VAT. You can run one on your own and another in partnership with say your wife and then that is legal. The big but here is that as soon as you pay one invoice from the wrong account or one from each business with one cheque you are ffcuked. For instance if you have just the one telephone number and you use it for both businesses you are ffcuked.

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Grandad,

I agree with you grandad........but [edited by admin] just dosn't have the same ring to it as fooked :lol:

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Grandad wrote:


Same tel no, same offices, share staff, common directors, so on and so forth. This nonsense about getting the missus involed was old hat years ago, bit like going bust and putting the house into her name, be sure if HM customs & exciles dont' get ya by the balls the missus will

So no place to hide anymore, all loopholes closed and punishments to fit the crimes

Regards

Eric

I wonder if you know what you are talking about!

For instance a few years ago my then wife and I split up. we were buying the house between us (joint mortgage) I met and married another woman. She bought the house off of my ex and me. Due to the demands of the CSA and various other creditors I declared myself bankrupt. My wife did not loose the house. If I want to run my limousine business as a seperate business from the taxi business then providing there is no link between the 2 I can run one as a sole trader and the other in partnership with the wife or anyone else for that matter and the 2 will remain seperate for all tax issues including VAT. I can even split my personal tax allowance between the 2 if I want. But the 2 businesses must be run completely seperate as I have previously stated.

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Grandad,

Grandad wrote:



As I said if the directors are common, the phone number is the same, you rent the same property to run the busisness from and you use the same staff then this will be suspect and liable for investigation as artificial seperation.

Nobody said you could not ddddddoooooooo this and I think most of understand you can split your personal allowance, so think about it, the same applied to the vat, the missus may no have to be vat registered the partnership may not have to be vat registered, but the percentage of turnover that belongs to your part of the partnership will attract vat if this figure combined with your sole proprietor status business goes over the threshold when combined together.

I think it is you who that does understand not me, and I quote, a few years ago, things have changed, not the regs and the laws, but the interpretation of them and the enforcement of them.

I do have a problem with people wrongly advising others on this forum, especially when they could be breaking the Law, which is VERY CLEAR which is why I step in and try to clarify it.

I only know as much about the HM customs and exise as i do because two close friends got caught doing what you are suggesting and did time for it.

Both also went bankrupt had to and signed their houses over to the wife, and guess what both wives were not there for them when they had finished their sentences, each with 100% of the house in their names. Yes both had to remorgage to pay their own liability percentage to the partnership creditors. At that time 100% for VAT, changed slightly now though April 2004, VAT has to agree to the same % as all other creditors. but that comes with its own problems with regards to tax as I am sure you will understand.

You guys may be thinking What bitches, but when you understand both wives had no idea what these guys were doing or why, were roped in on false pretences, had kids to consider and almost did a streach themselves as a result you can sort of understand why they were a bit bitter.

So the moral of stories, do not screw your business partner, even if is just the misus.

Regards

Eric

"Both also went bankrupt had to and signed their houses over to the wife, and guess what both wives were not there for them when they had finished their sentences, each with 100% of the house in their names. Yes both had to remorgage to pay their own liability percentage to the partnership creditors. At that time 100% for VAT, changed slightly now though April 2004, VAT has to agree to the same % as all other creditors. but that comes with its own problems with regards to tax as I am sure you will understand."

This statement makes no sense at all. Both went bankrupt and signed their houses over to their wives. Thats fine but then how could they then remortgage to pay their creditors?

Are you sure that this is what they did, Remortgage a house they did not own, come on it's a bit early in the year for cuckoos.

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Grandad,

If you look at my first post the only advice I gave was to ask your accountant.

I later explained how people can and do avoid regeristing for VAT, it is up to each individual to decide how they manage their tax affairs

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Absolutly, I certainly wouldn't advise anyone to go along a particular route without first seeing a proffesional advisor. Myself, when I went VAT registered I asked the Vat man to come round and advise me. You would be surprised at how helpful they can be if you ask.

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Grandad,