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Geely Auto UK will launch sales with the Emgrand EC7, which it describes as a C-segment car similar in size to the Ford Focus.

Once diesel was cheaper than Petrol. Now it's 10p a litre more expensive.

Maybe the advantage is not all it's cracked up to be!

wee eddie wrote:

Once diesel was cheaper than Petrol. Now it's 10p a litre more expensive.

Maybe the advantage is not all it's cracked up to be!

Me and a mate run identical cars (mondeos), except ones diesel the other petrol. The diesel runs at 18p/mile the petrol 24p. Even with the price difference the diesel works out cheaper but the repair costs are higher.

I have been told diesels are tougher on front tyres. Not sure why.

2 Jobs wrote:

I have been told diesels are tougher on front tyres. Not sure why.

Possibly because diesel engines are heavier than petrol ones.

Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price.

2 Jobs wrote:

Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price.

Yes, a modern diesel taxi saloon will normally have killed the dual mass flywheel by 100,000 miles or so.

A dealer will charge from a grand to £1,500 for a clutch/DMF replacement?

2 Jobs wrote:

Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price.

Yes, a modern diesel taxi saloon will normally have killed the dual mass flywheel by 100,000 miles or so.

A dealer will charge from a grand to £1,500 for a clutch/DMF replacement?

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:29 pm ]
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Looks alright. http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/geely-t ... 012/260372

Author:	grandad [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:35 pm ]
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I don't know how many they will sell with it being a petrol engine.

Author:	wee eddie [ Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:06 pm ]
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Once diesel was cheaper than Petrol. Now it's 10p a litre more expensive. Maybe the advantage is not all it's cracked up to be!

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:55 am ]
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Aren't people saying that some in the trade are moving back to petrols? As Eddie says the cost of fuel advantage has been eroded, and the powertrain has been made so complex - to make it seem less agricultural - that the reliability advantage has been undermined as well. In fact are modern petrol engines more reliable than diesels?

Author:	diesel [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:50 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: Looks alright. http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/geely-t ... 012/260372 matthew cheyne ex- lti, fills me full of confidence !

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Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:21 pm ]
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sounds like something stinky pete would say em grand

Author:	gusmac [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:49 pm ]
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Quote: Geely Auto UK will launch sales with the Emgrand EC7, which it describes as a C-segment car similar in size to the Ford Focus. Won't that be a bit small?

Author:	sasha [ Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:57 pm ]
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wee eddie wrote: Once diesel was cheaper than Petrol. Now it's 10p a litre more expensive. Maybe the advantage is not all it's cracked up to be! Me and a mate run identical cars (mondeos), except ones diesel the other petrol. The diesel runs at 18p/mile the petrol 24p. Even with the price difference the diesel works out cheaper but the repair costs are higher.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:30 pm ]
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sasha wrote: wee eddie wrote: Once diesel was cheaper than Petrol. Now it's 10p a litre more expensive. Maybe the advantage is not all it's cracked up to be! Me and a mate run identical cars (mondeos), except ones diesel the other petrol. The diesel runs at 18p/mile the petrol 24p. Even with the price difference the diesel works out cheaper but the repair costs are higher. plus diesels cost more to buy, the Duratorq engine is fine, however the EGR, DMF, CSC and common rail parts (injectors mainly) are 150,000 mile parts - if your lucky. an LPG option on the petrol engine would make it the better option under 50,000 miles a year

Author:	2 Jobs [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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I have a client, a "local" person who runs a fleet of Toyota Avensis petrols. Cam chain so no probs there. I have been told diesels are tougher on front tyres. Not sure why. Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price. A lot of our "non local" clients prefer the petrol Avensis too but they have difficulty explaining why.

Author:	christopherwk [ Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:12 pm ]
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2 Jobs wrote: I have been told diesels are tougher on front tyres. Not sure why. Possibly because diesel engines are heavier than petrol ones.

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:40 am ]
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christopherwk wrote: 2 Jobs wrote: I have been told diesels are tougher on front tyres. Not sure why. Possibly because diesel engines are heavier than petrol ones. Possibly due to the amount of torque that a diesel generates and this going through the driven wheels. I mean, I can easily spin the front wheels in third in my bog standard diesel, whereas in petrol motors I've driven previously that just wouldn't happen. A standard two litre diesel might generate 250 lbs of torque, whereas a similar petrol car might be 100 lbs less? Not that you need to be spinning the tyres to wear them prematurely - the torque does that and normally all the driver notices is better acceleration.

Author:	Dusty Bin [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:44 am ]
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2 Jobs wrote: Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price. Yes, a modern diesel taxi saloon will normally have killed the dual mass flywheel by 100,000 miles or so. A dealer will charge from a grand to £1,500 for a clutch/DMF replacement?

Author:	captain cab [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:55 am ]
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Dusty Bin wrote: 2 Jobs wrote: Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price. Yes, a modern diesel taxi saloon will normally have killed the dual mass flywheel by 100,000 miles or so. A dealer will charge from a grand to £1,500 for a clutch/DMF replacement? did you ask your dad CC

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Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:22 am ]
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Dusty Bin wrote: 2 Jobs wrote: Client says clutches on the petrol Anvensis is good for 170,000. other maintanance bills significantly lower as well as purchase price. Yes, a modern diesel taxi saloon will normally have killed the dual mass flywheel by 100,000 miles or so. A dealer will charge from a grand to £1,500 for a clutch/DMF replacement? You only pay around £400 if you convert to the single system