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But JD wants everyone classed as a taxi within a single tier system ...... and on that basis I and I suspect the hundreds of thousands of HC drivers and owners object to his proposal.

B. Lucky

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GA, Just think about what JD has suggested for a moment, and what you have just wrote.
If there was a single tier system in place would you still have the Berwick problem

so when does the WTD cover self-employed drivers, cos it will soon....

and so it should.


maybe all passenger carrying vehicles should have to have a tachograph and drivers abide by EU drivers hours....

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glad ive no finance, and the wife earns enough for us to more than break even then....

insurance is damn expensive though....£25 a week! argghhhhh

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Id be hard put to find another Line of self Employment that pays so little for the Amount of effort that is put in eg:80-100 weeks. we charge nothing like what reflects our true worth and yet we do it cos we enjoy it mostly. but with the ever more likelyhood of further Rules, Regulations from the EU as well as from Our Own governments Quangoes and LA authority tinkerings, then add on top the ever Spiralling costs of Taxiing or PH,ing and one of these days the Bubbles going to burst and the job will not be worth doing.

The fares will eventually become either so prohibitive in price in order for to make the job Feasible/Viable to us Operators that one day only the very wealthy will can afford our services, that or the Fares needed to cover Costs get so high as it kills the Business stone dead.

To my way of thinking that when times get hard and money gets tighter the only way forward is a relaxation of over regulation and adherence of petty rules. as they say "Beggars Can't be Chosers" and we,re all currently heading down the Beggars Trail. Im not suggesting we Ignore Passenger safety or Disabilty, but im sure we could be trusted with a little bit more Commonsense than the government gives us credit for

Who the Hell is this Mr Button anyway....ive never heard of him to now??

Skippy, that part of the discussion was about taxis ranking in bus stops when the busses stop running ...................... my point is that JD, or indeed Mr Button, constantly refer to taxis under a single tier of licensing and not HC under current legislation.

So by stating that you are in agreement with the proposals believeing them to be HC ranking at bus stops, when in fact your agreeing to single tier licensing.

The situation regarding Berwick plates will be resolved under the new authority following unification early next year, so no need for a law change to cover that situation.

I wonder how much support Sussex has for a single tier licensing structure ............................ but his puppetteers are still tugging at his strings controling his debate on here.

B. Lucky

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There will never be a single tier system .................. the fact is that recent legislation has made it essential for there to be two tiers of vehicle and driver licensing.

Jim Button has been suggesting this for years ......................... and is no further forward.

The fact is that the most powerful single group in this industry will object to this nonsence ................ after all who's gonna pay a PH operator for work if they don't have to. And thats without the National groups.

B. Lucky

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I think most people relate to a single tier system as one which has no power to restrict licenses by way of quantity controls. Over 70% of the country already has a one tier system, if you judge it in that way. However private hire bookings are part and parcel of hiring a taxi and I'm afraid that will never change no matter what type of vehicle is being booked? If you are saying that the wording in section 16 will always remain the same and always offer a lifeline to councils who wish to retain control of numbers, then I would strongly disagree.



Which legislation is that?



How many years?



Which group is that?



I don't get this one about private hire operators perhaps you can fill in the gaps?

Regards

JD

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Garbage ................... everyone knows that a single tier system is one where no distinction exists between a HC and a PH vehicle or drivers. Your continued attempts to disguise it as something else are what has uncovered you.



The repeal of S75(b) .................. I can just see someone spending £100,000 on a S-Class Mercedes and then covering it in taxi livery. Single tier leads to one set of rules for all.



as long as I can remember ................ how far has he got ??????????



Who has the money .............. who has the biggest vested interest in the retention of PH ............... come on think about it


Would you pay a PH operator £100 a week for work if you were only getting £150 a week worth of work?

B. Lucky

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You obviously don't know the system in the sticks.

In most/all LAs a PHV drivers MUST work through an operator.

In Brum (& probably in most other LAs) it is a fact that many PH operators have nowhere near enough work for the drivers that they take on.

So they blatantly tell their drivers, 'Sorry lads we've got no work for you, go & find you own, blow the job in over the radio when you're POB & we'll cover you".

The drivers have no choice!

THEY HAVE TO WORK THROUGH AN OPERATOR!

Sorry for shouting.

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Type a message, post your news,
Disagree with other members' views;
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When debating on the TDO Forum.

ironically, when i was plated REALLY out in the sticks, in a small town with just me and another OD i did fine....

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But a single-tier system would need new legislation, so surely anything that the existing legislation says wouldn't be a problem?

It's funny the way most people one here think that a two-tier system is normal - my experience makes me think a single-tier system is normal, but of course the norm in most of the UK is for two-tier.

We have around 120 taxis in St Andrews and no PH - or at least there are one or two around but they aren't doing mainstream taxi work.

It's the same in Dundee, which at one point had up to 800 taxis and no/very few PH. I think it would be the same to this day but for the WAV requirement for new taxi plates.

We had a handful of PH in St Andrews a few years ago, but they disappeared over the years. I'm glad we don't have any - we have enough hassle as it is without adding the kind of PH-related stuff I read about on here.

Same story here. We had 2 or 3 PHV in the mid nineties.
Due to WAV requirements for post 1994 applicants, we now have around 300 PHV.

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I don't quite fathom how you can equate the Berwick situation being resolved by the Amalgamation of these North East local authorities. If indeed there is an issue the only way to resolve it is by way of legislation and that is unlikely to happen. I assume Berwick aren't the only authority in the Uk that do not require a knowledge test.

Regards

JD

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