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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:01 am 
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how do you come to the conclusion that most people are in favour of getting rid of Councillors..... it only ever seems to be you and Sussex singing that particular song


I feel most people are sick and tired of councillors administering taxi legislation because they abuse the legislation. You on the other hand need councillors to retain your business model which is centred on weekly rental of your five or six vehicles. Whether or not you will be able to survive without council intervention is questionable but that is something you don't wish to contemplate, therefore your position is thoroughly exposed but we all understand that.

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I think most people are in favour of getting rid of councillors as regulators after all, why do we need them?


Isn't the above statement at odds with the opinion of Mr T? He seems to think it is only me who sees councillors as a blight on taxi drivers? I'm heartened to see you feel the same way as me and not that of Mr T who it appears is somewhat guided by his pocket.

Do you think that Mr T, like LTI, would survive in an open market?

You don't need to register your answer, I think we already know.

Any chance we might see the advantages of this "London Private hire legislation" you keep carping on about?

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Its OK they cannot hold a debate so raise MORE questions instead of responding to points raised.

Its a trait of the admin/owners of this site.

You'll get used to it.

B. Lucky :D


somedbody owns it?.....poor sods :cry:


Bloodnock, no one twists your arm to post on this website, if you have such a low opinion of it then I'm sure the rest of us are wondering why you do? You can always exercise your right of freedom of movement by taking your well grounded wisdom elsewhere, assuming you feel that this site isn't worthy of your intellect?

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Dont be so Petted and touchy, its a forum with good and bad but more important it encourages Views from others. Im not full of wisdom but i do like to think that maybe just now and again somebody might agree with something ive posted....youve just in a few words confirmed what a lot of others have said along and that is if its not your way its no way...yes we need a Forum, but at the same time you and any Forum need contributors to that forum, and if they cant get their views accepted with impartiality from the owners it becomes a waste of their efforts....Jeeze... you would think no Cabbie of Ph could live without it....Lighten up !!!


PS if you dont like it..well bloody well boot me... im not that bothered..really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Its up to date legislation which takes into account modern technology and working practices.


Up to date with what?

Haven't you yet noticed that it is exactly the same as the 1976 act, except for the backward logic of not allowing London private hire vehicles to have meters. Is that what you call up to date legislation?

You've continually harped on about this London private hire act but when push comes to shove you can't tell us why. All you can say is that the legislation is up to date. We are all waiting in anticipation for you to tell us the different between the up to date 1976 act and the London private hire act.

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How many more times will you ask the same question in a different way?


I suppose he'll keep asking the question until you give an answer. I'm afraid a generalisation that the legislation is up to date just won't cut it, simply because Mr Sussex knows that it is no different than the 1976 act. Therefore if the London private hire act is up to date, then so is the 1976 act.

I guess asking you to highlight the differences between the two acts is a bridge too far, which is quite surprising for a knowledgeable gentleman such as yourself?

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I post on here for fun .............. believe it or not I'm not accountable to you ............... the London Act is available for anyone to view and form their own opinions on .............. I simply don't have the time to write a new Act nor do I have the inclanation.

The differances between the 1976 and 1997 Act are far more than simply not allowing PH cars to have meters ................. but you pick on a single differance only because it suits your argument.

The reason you don't want it is ONLY because it retains PH as a legitimate professional part of the "passenger transport" industry ................ something you want taken off the statute books.

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I think that anyone who thinks the current legislation is workable and acceptable is a complete nutter.


lol has the penny dropped?

I rest my case

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Don't rest your case .................... quote the rest of the post.

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SO where is the response to my question, I'll put it another way just in case you don't understand the other.

1. Do the TC have a policy of requiring DAILY VEHICLE CHECK RECORDS, 3 MONTHLY VEHICLE TESTING (ON SOME VEHICLES), VEHICLE SERVICE HISTORY RECORDS, REGULATED DRIVER HOURS and SPEED RESTRICTORS?


lol pray tell what has the Traffic Commissioner got to do with taxi licensing? And if they did what makes you think taxis will be subservient to bus legislation? I think you will find the TC has no policies, it only administers statutory legislation, do you understand that?

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2. Is it usual for a agency such as the TC to impliment policies to all the services they are responsible for?


I'm afraid the TC doesn't implement policies, it administers statutory legislation. Do you know the difference?

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any chance of these being answered as you suggest you actually do answer questions.


I just did.

Do you now feel rather foolish?

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I never feel foolish JD ........... especially when it takes so long to get an answer from you.

The fact that policies and legislation are formed after consultation, coupled with the fact that if the TC were to be considered as the overseeing authority they would be included in that consultation.

Now do you think that they would bring to the table their current practices and as they believe they work seek to introduce them into any new legislation or policy.

We are not thick stupid or liars ................ and your recent rants of bull$hit have shown you in your true light ........ something I warned members of some time ago.

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JD wrote:
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how do you come to the conclusion that most people are in favour of getting rid of Councillors..... it only ever seems to be you and Sussex singing that particular song


I feel most people are sick and tired of councillors administering taxi legislation because they abuse the legislation. You on the other hand need councillors to retain your business model which is centred on weekly rental of your five or six vehicles. Whether or not you will be able to survive without council intervention is questionable but that is something you don't wish to contemplate, therefore your position is thoroughly exposed but we all understand that.

Regards

JD


You should really stick to feeling yourself ................. cause your only interested in making yourself happy anyway.

B. Lucky :D

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JD wrote:
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GA wrote:
Its OK they cannot hold a debate so raise MORE questions instead of responding to points raised.

Its a trait of the admin/owners of this site.

You'll get used to it.

B. Lucky :D


somedbody owns it?.....poor sods :cry:


Bloodnock, no one twists your arm to post on this website, if you have such a low opinion of it then I'm sure the rest of us are wondering why you do? You can always exercise your right of freedom of movement by taking your well grounded wisdom elsewhere, assuming you feel that this site isn't worthy of your intellect?

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JD


Its fun to take the pi$$ out of people who have ideas well above their station ..................... and a firum based website IS ITS MEMBERS you stupid man .................... without contributions its just www.jdtalksshit.com.

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The differances between the 1976 and 1997 Act are far more than simply not allowing PH cars to have meters ................. but you pick on a single differance only because it suits your argument.

I imagine you have read both acts?
How about highlighting the differences for those of us who haven't and telling us which differences you think would be of benefit?

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I post on here for fun .............. believe it or not I'm not accountable to you ............... the London Act is available for anyone to view and form their own opinions on .............. I simply don't have the time to write a new Act nor do I have the inclanation.


So after all your hot air about the London Private hire act your balloon has suddenly become deflated? It just proves your original argument was as empty as your head.

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The differances between the 1976 and 1997 Act are far more than simply not allowing PH cars to have meters


I suggest there are a great many people reading this website who know infinitely more about the London Private hire act than you and considering you have a problem exonerating your outbursts regarding this legislation being a universal remedy to outdated Hackney carriage legislation then until you do I'm afraid many of us will conclude you are a crank.

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but you pick on a single differance only because it suits your argument.


I don't pick on any differences, you are quite at liberty to shower us with all these wonderful solutions you have discovered in the London Private hire act that are going to solve all the problems contained in outdated hackney carriage legislation. You have the floor, why not use it?

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The reason you don't want it is ONLY because it retains PH as a legitimate professional part of the "passenger transport" industry


I suppose the above statement shows your lack of understanding regarding the words "private hire" and I must admit it just about says it all.

If quality controls aren't built into new legislation then it doesn't matter if there is a one tier or two tier system because it would undoubtedly fail. You will still have the same illegal plying for hire chaos that exists today and section 16 would undoubtedly be a relic of the past.

I don't suppose you have any other alternatives in your wardrobe of wisdom other than adopting the London Private hire act do you? I suppose not.

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""I pose the question, does any cab driver have the moral or legal right to tell or advise other cab drivers how they should conduct any aspect of their "own" business" ........JD

What the hell does JD think he has being doing for the last few years? The man is completely devoid of shame. Ged. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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bloodnock wrote:
JD wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
GA wrote:
Its OK they cannot hold a debate so raise MORE questions instead of responding to points raised.

Its a trait of the admin/owners of this site.

You'll get used to it.

B. Lucky :D


somedbody owns it?.....poor sods :cry:


Bloodnock, no one twists your arm to post on this website, if you have such a low opinion of it then I'm sure the rest of us are wondering why you do? You can always exercise your right of freedom of movement by taking your well grounded wisdom elsewhere, assuming you feel that this site isn't worthy of your intellect?

Regards

JD



Dont be so Petted and touchy, its a forum with good and bad but more important it encourages Views from others. Im not full of wisdom but i do like to think that maybe just now and again somebody might agree with something ive posted....youve just in a few words confirmed what a lot of others have said along and that is if its not your way its no way...yes we need a Forum, but at the same time you and any Forum need contributors to that forum, and if they cant get their views accepted with impartiality from the owners it becomes a waste of their efforts....Jeeze... you would think no Cabbie of Ph could live without it....Lighten up !!!


PS if you dont like it..well bloody well boot me... im not that bothered..really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now im angry..............screw your bloody forum..


Nice one... :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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JD wrote:
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I think most people are in favour of getting rid of councillors as regulators after all, why do we need them?


Isn't the above statement at odds with the opinion of Mr T? He seems to think it is only me who sees councillors as a blight on taxi drivers? I'm heartened to see you feel the same way as me and not that of Mr T who it appears is somewhat guided by his pocket.

Do you think that Mr T, like LTI, would survive in an open market?

You don't need to register your answer, I think we already know.

Any chance we might see the advantages of this "London Private hire legislation" you keep carping on about?

Regards

JD
JD... you have a cheek.. you must never work.... the amount of time you spend on this forum proves that...... I have a strong suspicion that everybody else is subsidising your income.....

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The reason you don't want it is ONLY because it retains PH as a legitimate professional part of the "passenger transport" industry


I suppose the above statement shows your lack of understanding regarding the words "private hire" and I must admit it just about says it all.

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JD


I must admit that you are correct.

The above statement does say it all.

Theres me correctly stating that Private Hire are, and quite rightly should be, considered within Local Transport Plans as a provider of public transport services ...................... and there is you stating quite clearly that PH are the scum of the earth and should not be considered as part of the public transport system.

The words PRIVATE HIRE may have different meanings, but when taken in the context of the argument as well as the various statements from both local and national government it is quite clear that "Private Hire" is Licensed Private Hire and they most definatley are part of the Integrated Public Transport System.

You want the PH sector to feel belittled and beneath the HC sector .................. and that fact remains that they are not ........... they provide a different service in a different way and without them the public would not recieve the same level of service or indeed choice of service.

You need them to feel that way because its only with their support that you stand any chance of succeeeding in your quest .............. noit that you have any chance because your arguments are founded in lies.

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The differances between the 1976 and 1997 Act are far more than simply not allowing PH cars to have meters


I suggest there are a great many people reading this website who know infinitely more about the London Private hire act than you and considering you have a problem exonerating your outbursts regarding this legislation being a universal remedy to outdated Hackney carriage legislation then until you do I'm afraid many of us will conclude you are a crank.

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but you pick on a single differance only because it suits your argument.


I don't pick on any differences, you are quite at liberty to shower us with all these wonderful solutions you have discovered in the London Private hire act that are going to solve all the problems contained in outdated hackney carriage legislation. You have the floor, why not use it?

JD


Unlike you I have no inclination to demand that people believe what I say without questioning it.

What I would prefer (and it is because it saves me from doing the work) is to make a suggestion that people actually think for themselves and read through the London PH Act and .............. now don't get to exited .......... COME TO THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

We really don't need anyone to tell us what is what ......... we can read ourselves and FORM OUR OWN OPINIONS.

Your suggestion that the only differance between the 76 and the London Act is that PH vehicles should not be fitted with meters ................. but thats not entirely true is it JD there are many more differences.

Tell me-

Is it legal for a PH firm to pass work onto another PH firm outside of London ................... because it is in London.

I must also add that if the only thing that upsets you is the section which prohibits the use of meters then lets change it to allow them outside London ................... if your saying that is the only differance between the two acts then I think the members on here would find it very strange that a new act would not have taken into account many other outdated parts of the 76 Act .................... or at least the parts that have been superceeded by case law.

The only reason you don't want to see the London Act introduced is because its an Act for PH ..................... and you don't like PH do you.

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