Taxi Driver Online

No debate on equal terms then? Well there's a surprise.

I don't know why guys like you bother. It must be hard keeping all that intellect hidden.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

There cannot be any debate on equal terms from me about this because I know nothing about it, to be honest it's probably better never to get involved in other peoples personal disputes or problems.

P.S I don't have any problem hiding my intellect.

Here's another wee lesson for the hard of thinking in Edinburgh:


If it's any consolation, it is probably only a matter of time before Inspector Audrey Fry and that bunch of scumbag councillors nail us as well.

The system is set up to balance the public good against that of the individual. That's why the courts have empowered the Council RC to act in a quasi judicial role when deciding who is "fit and proper" to drive a taxi.

The only thing is, the Judiciary, in their infinite wisdom gave no benchmarks as how the councillors should come by their decision.

There is no criteria, no definition and no threshold to decide who is in fact a "Fit and Proper person". The councillors need no requisite Knowledge to make a decision. Every case is judged on it's merits, or so they say - we all know different.


If Jim or I slip on a banana skin, we're gone. In saying that we may have come up with a strategy to feck them if and when we get an audience with the RC - fingers crossed.

So Hugh Dunderhead, we might not be that far behind you.


I would consider it a miracle if the RC let you keep your licence.


You need to stop listening to as*holes like John G. that little weasel is toxic.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

There you go again Garry,"what's your real name","whats your plate number","whats your call sign".
Why do you need this information ?
Would you feel any better knowing this?
Do you think you are the big bad man you make out you are?
If the trade is that "fecked"why are you still part of it?
There are guys out there making money Garry and there always will be,just like there will always be guys like you and Jim saying different.
If it is that bad do what i done and sell your plate...whoops you don't have one.
Before you say," if it's that good why did you sell",all i can say is "early retirement and relax,relax,relax,relaxyvoo".
Btw,i drove my mates taxi on Friday night and made a fortune.

It's simple Saf.

If you have a valid point to make then why hide? I don't hide - equal terms.


This is the only place guys like you have a voice. You believe not a jot in anything you say and won't back it up. You need to hide for fear of embarrassing yourself, losing what, if any credibility you think you have . No one knows who you are and probably never will.

This is the Edinburgh taxi trade, it's a small place so why the secrecy?

As for the market its fecked. Yes, some guys out there will still make money depending on how they are fixed, relative to their personal situation but for how long is anyone's guess. You can be sure of one thing. It's going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better.

My bet is, next February will be crunch time for those financed up the ying yang.


50K for the illusion of "businessman" or should I say working for the council.



Now that's funny

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

If you think of Cash Flow (I think we can forget about Profit) as the ceiling and the Cost of Living as the floor. We are undoubtedly being sandwiched between the two. It's a combination of factors that's squeezing the life out of those who have recently bought in. Yes, there are those with the big redundancy packages, and those with wives on big salaries but for the most part, it's the guy who's hawked the family silver that's taking the hit first.

This is what happens when you pay an artificial value for something that has no intrinsic value. You by a job not a business. That's not to say you can't turn it into one but for the vast majority, it's just a job.

Spending 50K on a plate is just a desperate attempt at reducing the uncertainty of your employment status, thereby shifting that uncertainty on to someone else i.e the driver. Now you can strut around like Charlie Tatties, pretending you're the big man to your driver.

The economy is in meltdown.

The run up to the festival was bad enough but just wait until October through to Christmas, then January through to whenever . . . .

Some are already struggling, they can see the writing on the wall.

50K going, going . . . if you can't find a mug now you never will.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

It presents a golden opportunity as far as I'm concerned,it's just another Novus Actus Interveniens.

Correctemundo!


Yeah, if you keep your eye on the ball it should be fun but some are in the process of getting badly burned.

This is of course the Skull and Taylors fault, along with the war in Iraq and god only knows what else.

A classic case of shoot the messenger. The fact is, when you play with fire . . . and you've only got yourself to blame.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

saf, you did nothing when the council forced fairway taxis out.

That was the signal they could do whatever they want with the trade and ersepieces like you would do nothing about it.

That's why the council is now running a taxi service to the airport and once again you would do nothing other than touch your forelocks to the bar stewards.

I followed a council taxibus to the airport from Crewe Toll, a wee bit away from the city centre which they started from. The bar stewards are stealing our work while telling us we can't expand our fleet.

If there's no work for us, how is there work for the Council's own taxis?

The council are liars. In any real nation with balls these councillors would be taken behind a wall and shot for being greedy, corrupt, grasping bar stewards, supposedly public officials.

We don't do this. We simply turn the other cheek and plead with them to shaft us again.

Dear oh dear.

Meanwhile, when people fone for taxis and cant get through on the fones, the PH take up the slack so that the committee men can protect their stipend for keeping the trade divided.

This isn't about the driver, but committee men and councillors with their noses in the trough. Corruption rules OK.

You think we're the problem. You're having a laugh you thicko.

As for your claim of making dough. Enjoy. Come back you sad feck in October. Or November. You may get a fortnight in december. But in January, those alleged taxi businessmen, up to their hock in shecht, will be hosepipes in the taxi jobs.

BTW Please ask them not to do a triple pike off the North Bridge. It holds up the traffic and I lose more money.

Who is Shug Dopey?


What kind of an er*e puts himself in the Firing Line when everything is going down the plughole?

Too late Shug, you were a clever c*nt for all of 5 minutes.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Will the Edinburgh forum actually be starting again, what's the hold up? anyone know.

Anyone care?

Jim, you seem a little uptight,you really should calm down you know.We all know what high blood pressure can do.
Would you rather have had a fleet full of old fairway taxi's ?
The councils "taxi service"which correct me if im wrong is falling flat on it's erse is another service which suits a small amount of people not all,i mean when was the last time you seen one full to the brim with passengers?
I find it some what strange that you "followed a taxibus from crewe toll to the airport"now obviously you are going to say you had someone in the back and that was where you were going but tell me was the taxibus full ?
Now this is where we get to the bit when you start the the old war cry Jim,"THE COUNCIL ARE LIARS","GREEDY","CORRUPT" now are you still saying you don't have a personal vendetta against them ?
Jim you are the problem,why do you think people treat you the way they do and this coming from drivers and owners alike.
Unlike you Jim they see the consequences of what would happen if there was more taxi's.
You can't say things are poor and then still believe it would be better if there was more cabs on the road the maths just don't equate.
Jim,there are quiet times of the year and there are busy times of the year,there always has been and there always will it's just a case of how you work it.
Anyway as i said it's early retirement for me and yes i will,if i want to,drive the odd shift to get me out the house,after all theres no banter like taxi banter.
Im sorry to hear about your latest spat but it does make you wonder is it really worth it Jim,your never going to win.

People are allowed to have an opinion Garry even though it might not be the same as yours and if they want to stay anon thats up to them but it doesn't mean what they say is wrong.
Yes it will get a lot worse before it gets better but more taxi's on the road is not the answer and you know it no matter what way you dress it up.
Remember Garry, "only the strong survive".
Theres a good couple of years of this to come.

SAF, you seem unable to get it into your head that I can only win. I can't lose. Because the battle isn't over until I say it is.

The recent downturn makes the case for more taxis even more justified.

Because as things get worse, then those who drive taxis need even more flexibility to control their costs. And operating their own taxi allows them to do just that.

Anyone heard of any rentals being voluntarily reduced by the 1200 owners because the takings are down? Nope, I thought not.

Or are guys are having to work longer to make the same money?

Then there's the safety aspect. Unable to control costs normally drivers work longer. That increases the potential risk to passengers and the public. If the trade doesn't loosen its belt on taxi plates, then some European Directive will be introduced to restrict the hours drivers can work. It's already been mooted. All it will take to be brought in is some slave driver using tiredness as an excuse for the accident he's caused.

And you seem to have missed the point about Fairways. These vehicles would have been removed from the fleet normally in any case. The council dictating the short period for their removal just cost the trade millions. It also sent the signal that the council could do whatever it like and the trade would go along with it.

That's why there is no opposition to taxibuses. BTW, you seem to think that low passenger numbers will bring an end to the council's taxi service. You obviously don't understand business. Perhaps you haven't noticed the £275,000 buses that drive through the night substantially empty? This hasn't caused a reduction in night services.

When a pet project doesn't make money, the council, through Lothian Buses, simply cross-subsidises from elsewhere within the business. They will never lose face by withdrawing this service.

Now, let me see. The RC convener says the council's demand info is flawed, that there could be demand elsewhere, all while the council is setting up and expanding its taxibus service? The only thing that's missing so far is the hearing to put this before a Sheriff. And if the Justiciary truly is independent, and we don't get Sheriff Mackie (a protest would be lodged for appeal purposes) it has to be a given.

Now, I wonder how the rest of the 70% of UK authorities have managed all this time. And Aberdeen who seem to be surviving the cataclysm you seem to fear.