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all well and good JD...but what about the ambient disabled and pensioners who find it difficult to get into both E7's and TX's?

Suley provision should be made to enable the majority of people to use taxis and not the minority.

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I read a report that 97% of walking disabled preferred a saloon as they went in bum first and they cannot do that in any WAV


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all well and good JD...but what about the ambient disabled and pensioners who find it difficult to get into both E7's and TX's?

Suley provision should be made to enable the majority of people to use taxis and not the minority.

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I read a report that 97% of walking disabled preferred a saloon as they went in bum first and they cannot do that in any WAV


Professor Oxley is a nice chap....brought him to Carlisle you know.

Ill dig out his presentation, its on the NTA site somewhere.

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Council policies vary throughout the country, there are only 19 councils that stipulate the COF so that speaks for itself. After tonight there will hopefully be 18.


If the report stays as written there will be none left, they will all have to licence saloons, even London, just a though though, with the stories of PH being possibly taken under the hackney wing down there could this be the scraping of PH altogether


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http://www.national-taxi-association.co.uk/linkclick.aspx?fileticket=VgQABLW5X9k%3d&tabid=557&mid=1335

That might work

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FFs....looks like A camper van with beds in might be a more useful tool...


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As I fully expected the E7 has been approved by Knowsley.

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As I fully expected the E7 has been approved by Knowsley.

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Have you a copy of the report JD??
And who are the remaining 18 :D


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Knowsley Taxi Drivers Jubilant at Hackney Carriage Approval of E7 Taxi

29th August 2008

Taxi drivers operating in Knowsley are celebrated yesterday (28th August 2008) at the decision of its local Licensing Committee to approve the E7 taxi as a Hackney Carriage within the borough. The move was backed by local taxi operators and trade groups including the Knowsley branch of the Unite Union.

With immediate effect, Knowsley Taxi Drivers can purchase the popular diesel Peugeot E7 taxi and first deliveries are expected within the next three to four weeks.

For drivers, the Peugeot E7 taxi offers a significant improvement in the working environment compared to other models currently available. Standard equipment includes driver and passenger airbags, a spacious cab area and a fully adjustable seat and steering column. Considering the amount of time drivers spend behind the wheel of their cab, such equipment can drastically improve their working conditions.

Using the latest diesel engine technology from Peugeot, the E7 is also more efficient than other ‘black cabs ‘on the market. Increased fuel economy will reduce running costs for drivers and lower CO2 emissions, coupled with a diesel particulate filter, could assist in improving air quality within areas using the cab.

Gerry Roberts, a Knowsley cabbie said, “The ruling is a giant step forward in improving the working conditions for drivers in the area. My current cab offers only a seatbelt for protection in an accident and the cab area is quite small and basic. We have waited so long for the approval of the E7, I have ordered mine already and am hoping to be driving around in it by the end of September.”

Paul Naulty, Chairman of All Black Cabs, the largest operator of Hackney Carriages in Knowsley also said, “For our drivers the campaign has been all about choice. Until now there has been no option to use a different vehicle within the area, and the majority of our drivers felt this was unfair. They are now looking forward to comparing the new E7 with other models when the time comes to replace their current vehicle. “

The action was also supported by Knowsley Disability Concern, who cited a breach of the council’s duty under the Disability Discrimination Act.

The decision in Knowsley follows hot on the heels of a judicial review test case against Liverpool City Council, backed by the Liverpool Wheelchair Users Group (LWUG) at the High Court. THE LWUG claimed that refusing the use of the E7 taxi was an act of discrimination.


Source; Easier Motoring - www.easier.com

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The move was backed by local taxi operators and trade groups including the Knowsley branch of the Unite Union.

Which does beg the question as to why it took so long to happen. :-k

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
The move was backed by local taxi operators and trade groups including the Knowsley branch of the Unite Union.

Which does beg the question as to why it took so long to happen. :-k


Perhaps the answer is within the original article :wink:

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
The action was also supported by Knowsley Disability Concern, who cited a breach of the council’s duty under the Disability Discrimination Act.

The decision in Knowsley follows hot on the heels of a judicial review test case against Liverpool City Council, backed by the Liverpool Wheelchair Users Group (LWUG) at the High Court. THE LWUG claimed that refusing the use of the E7 taxi was an act of discrimination.


In recent times for as long as I can remember Unite has been against practically every application to license the E7 so I wonder why knowsley bucked the trend this time? Of course it is all history now but you can bet your bottom dollar that Liverpool Unite will be in the councils corner when that judicial review is heard.

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Of course it is all history now but you can bet your bottom dollar that Liverpool Unite will be in the councils corner when that judicial review is heard.

IMO having Unite in the other corner is a massive bonus for Cab Direct. :D

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IMO having Unite in the other corner is a massive bonus for Cab Direct. :D


I've not contemplated that scenario but I'm sure you are right. Let me in on your train of thought?

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They argue that it is only possible to travel sideways in an traditional black cab and this is done without wheelchair restraints or seatbelts creating a substantial risk for disabled users.


Errm dont think thats quite right :shock:

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I KNOW that is not right.

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They argue that it is only possible to travel sideways in an traditional black cab and this is done without wheelchair restraints or seatbelts creating a substantial risk for disabled users.


Errm dont think thats quite right.

I KNOW that is not right.


It depends on the size & type of wheelchair, & the size & sitting/lying position of the passenger.

It is accepted by all WAV manufacturers, that not all wheelchairs & their occupants will be able to be carried in their vehicles in the prescribed & correct manner, i.e. facing backwards, (or forwards in some of the newer Eurocabs), with the proper wheelchair & passenger restraints fitted.

Even the Disability Right Commission acknowledge this, & clearly say that wheelchairs should on no account be carried sideways, without the proper restarints fitted to the wheelchair & seatbelts fitted for the passenger.

If the wheelchair & passenger cannot be manoeuvred inside the cab to the correct position for the restaints & belts to be fitted correctly, you should decline to take the passenger. Nothing in the legislation compels cab drivers to take passengers in wheelchairs, if they cannot be conveyed in the prescribed manner.

This is a Health & Safety issue for both the driver & passenger. Some years ago, one of our drivers took a wheelchair passenger in a sideways position, without restraints fitted; she fell out of the wheelchair, claimed over £4,000 in compensation from the driver's insurance, his premium sky-rocketed, & needless to say he now carries wheelchair passengers in the prescribed manner ONLY, or declines to take them at all, if the wheelchair & occupant cannot be secured in the correct position.

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