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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:08 pm 
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A FEMALE only taxi firm has been set-up to provide transport to lone women and vulnerable people fearful of getting into a cab with a male driver.

Doomed to failure. :-$


Well, they dont ONLY take female passengers, so why?

If it works then there would be 100s of these types of firms. But there ain't.

And every now and again a new one starts up, and then the likes of you ask why they wont work. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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I think perhaps somebody who has the time and patience to look up the discrimination act may find the answer to the questions raised here. I'd volunteer but I may be considered bias :D


cant see how

they offer lady drivers, i assume they dont refuse male passengers, they work for themselves.

in the phone book i doubt it will say "no male passengers or drivers"

good luck to em, i think the fact one of them already has an inside track on the problem social services has sourcing guaranteed female drivers will do them no harm at all...

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I think perhaps somebody who has the time and patience to look up the discrimination act may find the answer to the questions raised here. I'd volunteer but I may be considered bias :D


cant see how

they offer lady drivers, i assume they dont refuse male passengers, they work for themselves.

in the phone book i doubt it will say "no male passengers or drivers"

good luck to em, i think the fact one of them already has an inside track on the problem social services has sourcing guaranteed female drivers will do them no harm at all...


One should never ASSUME anything. IMO if they do take male passengers they are leaving themselves extremely vunerable. As I have said before the only reason I feel safe doing this job is because I have the back up of male drivers. I couldn't see another female driver being any more able than I to deal with a violent male passenger.

I do have lots of females saying it's a good idea to have female drivers and many that have asked for my personal number. I just explain that the male drivers are just as safe as me, they are checked in the same manner as me and they shouldn't feel unsafe in a taxi providing they have indeed got into a properly licenced vehicle.

The fact that one of them already has possibly an inside track to social services only serves to raise more questions as to the reason behind the decision to set up the business as a ladies only firm rather than just another taxi/ph company :D

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I think perhaps somebody who has the time and patience to look up the discrimination act may find the answer to the questions raised here. I'd volunteer but I may be considered bias :D


cant see how

they offer lady drivers, i assume they dont refuse male passengers, they work for themselves.

in the phone book i doubt it will say "no male passengers or drivers"

good luck to em, i think the fact one of them already has an inside track on the problem social services has sourcing guaranteed female drivers will do them no harm at all...


One should never ASSUME anything.

1. IMO if they do take male passengers they are leaving themselves extremely vunerable.

As I have said before the only reason I feel safe doing this job is because I have the back up of male drivers. I couldn't see another female driver being any more able than I to deal with a violent male passenger.

2. I do have lots of females saying it's a good idea to have female drivers and many that have asked for my personal number.

3. I just explain that the male drivers are just as safe as me , they are checked in the same manner as me and they shouldn't feel unsafe in a taxi providing they have indeed got into a properly licenced vehicle.

The fact that one of them already has possibly an inside track to social services only serves to raise more questions as to the reason behind the decision to set up the business as a ladies only firm rather than just another taxi/ph company :D


1. More than just being a lady driver on a rank/circuit? cant see how

2. Demand there toots

3. As drivers or sexual predators?...

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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I think perhaps somebody who has the time and patience to look up the discrimination act may find the answer to the questions raised here. I'd volunteer but I may be considered bias :D


cant see how

they offer lady drivers, i assume they dont refuse male passengers, they work for themselves.

in the phone book i doubt it will say "no male passengers or drivers"

good luck to em, i think the fact one of them already has an inside track on the problem social services has sourcing guaranteed female drivers will do them no harm at all...


One should never ASSUME anything.

1. IMO if they do take male passengers they are leaving themselves extremely vunerable.

As I have said before the only reason I feel safe doing this job is because I have the back up of male drivers. I couldn't see another female driver being any more able than I to deal with a violent male passenger.

2. I do have lots of females saying it's a good idea to have female drivers and many that have asked for my personal number.

3. I just explain that the male drivers are just as safe as me , they are checked in the same manner as me and they shouldn't feel unsafe in a taxi providing they have indeed got into a properly licenced vehicle.

The fact that one of them already has possibly an inside track to social services only serves to raise more questions as to the reason behind the decision to set up the business as a ladies only firm rather than just another taxi/ph company :D


1. More than just being a lady driver on a rank/circuit? cant see how

2. Demand there toots

3. As drivers or sexual predators?...


1. You wouldn't you're not female :roll:

2. Illegal demand there :shock:

3. Take it as you like 'whatever floats your boat' :wink:

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Sex Discrimination in Goods, Facilities and Services

The SDA 1975 (‘SDA’) makes it unlawful for a person providing goods, facilities or services to members of the public to directly or indirectly discriminate (or victimise) on the grounds of sex in the provision of such goods, facilities or services. This is regardless of whether or not the goods, facilities or services are provided free of charge. This covers a wide range of public and private services, including pubs, cafes, restaurants, hotels, transport, banking, insurance, hire purchase, recreation and entertainment.

There is no express provision prohibiting harassment in the provision of goods, facilities and services, however it would be possible to argue that such treatment constituted direct discrimination. An express provision prohibiting harassment is due to come into force by 21 December 2007.

Exceptions

The list of exceptions to this part of the SDA, however, is just about as long as the list of situations it does cover. The exceptions are:

Currently private clubs, such as working-men's clubs and sports clubs. It is arguable that the exclusion of these clubs from the provisions of the Sex Discrimination Act could now be subject to challenge under human rights legislation.

Political parties. Women’s sections and conferences are still lawful.

Religious bodies may continue to discriminate if necessary because of their doctrine or because not to do so would offend 'a significant number' of its members.

Hospitals, prisons, hostels, old people’s homes and any other place for people needing ‘special care’.

Competitive sport, if an average woman would be at a disadvantage because of her physical capacity compared to the average man.

Charities and non-profit-making organisations set up to provide facilities or services for one sex only. This does not mean such organisations may discriminate across the board - for example, by restricting their office workers to one sex only - but they may discriminate in the provision of services, including who is employed in actually providing those services.

Communal facilities or services which need to be restricted to one sex where users are likely to suffer ‘serious embarrassment’ at the presence of the opposite sex or the users are likely to be in a state of undress. This covers toilets, saunas, changing rooms, and so on.

Services involving physical contact, where it may be reasonable to object if the other person was of the opposite sex. For example self-defence classes.

Services which require a particular skill which is exercised differently for men than for women may in certain circumstances be restricted to one sex only, e.g. hairdressing and tailoring.

Insurance companies and similar bodies. These may discriminate in relation to the provision of an annuity, life assurance policy, accident insurance policy or similar matter involving an assessment of risk where such discrimination is based on actuarial or other data on which it is reasonable to rely. For example, women can be offered cheaper car insurance than men because statistics show they are safer drivers.


Can't see anything in the excemptions regarding taxis, but, IMO if you had a good solicitor you would probably be able to find a loophole that allows ladies only taxis service.

I'd just like to point out the type in bold while I have the chance :lol:

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Sex Discrimination in Goods, Facilities and Services

The SDA 1975 (‘SDA’) makes it unlawful for a person providing goods, facilities or services to members of the public to directly or indirectly discriminate (or victimise) on the grounds of sex in the provision of such goods, facilities or services. This is regardless of whether or not the goods, facilities or services are provided free of charge. This covers a wide range of public and private services, including pubs, cafes, restaurants, hotels, transport, banking, insurance, hire purchase, recreation and entertainment.

There is no express provision prohibiting harassment in the provision of goods, facilities and services, however it would be possible to argue that such treatment constituted direct discrimination. An express provision prohibiting harassment is due to come into force by 21 December 2007.

Exceptions

The list of exceptions to this part of the SDA, however, is just about as long as the list of situations it does cover. The exceptions are:

Currently private clubs, such as working-men's clubs and sports clubs. It is arguable that the exclusion of these clubs from the provisions of the Sex Discrimination Act could now be subject to challenge under human rights legislation.

Political parties. Women’s sections and conferences are still lawful.

Religious bodies may continue to discriminate if necessary because of their doctrine or because not to do so would offend 'a significant number' of its members.

Hospitals, prisons, hostels, old people’s homes and any other place for people needing ‘special care’.

Competitive sport, if an average woman would be at a disadvantage because of her physical capacity compared to the average man.

Charities and non-profit-making organisations set up to provide facilities or services for one sex only. This does not mean such organisations may discriminate across the board - for example, by restricting their office workers to one sex only - but they may discriminate in the provision of services, including who is employed in actually providing those services.

Communal facilities or services which need to be restricted to one sex where users are likely to suffer ‘serious embarrassment’ at the presence of the opposite sex or the users are likely to be in a state of undress. This covers toilets, saunas, changing rooms, and so on.

Services involving physical contact, where it may be reasonable to object if the other person was of the opposite sex. For example self-defence classes.

Services which require a particular skill which is exercised differently for men than for women may in certain circumstances be restricted to one sex only, e.g. hairdressing and tailoring.

Insurance companies and similar bodies. These may discriminate in relation to the provision of an annuity, life assurance policy, accident insurance policy or similar matter involving an assessment of risk where such discrimination is based on actuarial or other data on which it is reasonable to rely. For example, women can be offered cheaper car insurance than men because statistics show they are safer drivers.


Can't see anything in the excemptions regarding taxis, but, IMO if you had a good solicitor you would probably be able to find a loophole that allows ladies only taxis service.

I'd just like to point out the type in bold while I have the chance :lol:


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dunno............I think its just cos the Hit things more gently than men....anything over 30 MPH and they can't drive and do their Nails.. :wink:


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Illegal demand?

oh, PLEASE explain that

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Illegal demand?

oh, PLEASE explain that


Illegal, in so far as, I was to give out my number so the ladies could ring me direct :D


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dunno............I think its just cos the Hit things more gently than men....anything over 30 MPH and they can't drive and do their Nails..


I can assure you if I was to hit you it would hurt :lol: With regard to painting nails and driving that would come under multi tasking and us girlies are good at that, but, having said that I always have my nails painted professionally :D

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not actually illegal as such then, just a "private booking" frowned upon by the base you rent a radio off.

customers arent allowed preferences or favourites, further eliminating customer choice.

must be one of these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RriUskRj ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWcRMonvWA

BUT,i bet if the base owner had the lady driver in his car the goalposts would be moved "FAF", faster than a rat up a drainpipe. faster than a fast thing going fast...

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not actually illegal as such then, just a "private booking" frowned upon by the base you rent a radio off.


No it's illegal I don't have a licence to take my own bookings. If it was only frowned upon by the base I work from I wouldn't give a toot as I have no respect for them anyway :D

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not actually illegal as such then, just a "private booking" frowned upon by the base you rent a radio off.


No it's illegal I don't have a licence to take my own bookings. If it was only frowned upon by the base I work from I wouldn't give a toot as I have no respect for them anyway :D


sorry, forgot your PH, not HC, whereas im PH and can..... :lol:

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not actually illegal as such then, just a "private booking" frowned upon by the base you rent a radio off.


No it's illegal I don't have a licence to take my own bookings. If it was only frowned upon by the base I work from I wouldn't give a toot as I have no respect for them anyway :D


sorry, forgot your PH, not HC, whereas im PH and can..... :lol:


You must have your own licence then. I think you may find it hard to take the particular type of bookings that are being discussed on here though :D

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not actually illegal as such then, just a "private booking" frowned upon by the base you rent a radio off.


No it's illegal I don't have a licence to take my own bookings. If it was only frowned upon by the base I work from I wouldn't give a toot as I have no respect for them anyway :D


sorry, forgot your PH, not HC, whereas im PH and can..... :lol:


You must have your own licence then. I think you may find it hard to take the particular type of bookings that are being discussed on here though :D


for the right money, you never know....

ive a PH ops licence, if i were to rent a radio of another id have to give that up, which is strange when you think id then be sub-contracting off the base, them passing jobs to me yet id then have no ops licence...

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